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We will know our R2 delivery by the end of June.

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First step is to be allowed to configure your vehicle. No one can do that yet. There is no "order" until they are ready to start producing your configuration. You then you have to sign off on the order, at which point your configuration is frozen and your $100 reservation fee will become non-refundable. For the R1 that was typically about a month before you got your vehicle.
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IMO the title of this thread is misleading. "By the end of June" we will not know an R2 "delivery" date, we will receive notification of an "order window" for our reservations.

If I were Rivian and had a spreadsheet of let's say some 200K R2 reservations, I might sort (prioritize) them something like this:

1. Current R1 owners (for whatever reasons - loyalty, ...)
2. "DEFINITELY" R2 Launch Edition responses
3. Proximity to Rivian Space/SC locations (mostly larger population centers, possibly also ranked in some way)
4. R2 reservation date/time

I'm not quite sure how to rank this - maybe it should be higher?
5. Lease expiry date (soonest first)

Then I'd assign the "order windows" to each reservation in the list based on my anticipated R2 production schedules (by month or quarter?).

As customers submit orders - or fail to within their initial order window - the spreadsheet rankings can shift to make sure orders meet actual production. In that way, someone with a more "standard" configuration could move ahead of someone without, all other factors being equal.
 

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I am R1 owner and early reservation on r2, however I want Polaris color launch edition, what would be my window !
 

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It hardly seems fair that an R1 owner who makes a reservation today, tomorrow or X months from now should immediately get bumped ahead of a non-R1 owner who made a reservation many months ago. I'd offer the following general algorithm for R1 owner prioritization:

1. Order all reservations by date.

2. For the first 6 weeks of production, serve R1 owners only.

3. For the next 2 months, process the remaining queue in order, BUT ... at least one out of every two cars must go to an R1 owner, so if the queue contains 2 non-R1-owners in a row, reach further down the queue for the next R1 owner in line and bump them to the top.

4. For the next 2 months, do the same as #3 above but make sure at least every third car goes to an R1 owner, etc.

5. Continue this process of gradual de-prioritization of R1 owners until whenever (18 months?), then freeze the queue and just process all remaining reservations in order.

[ Did you get all that, RJ? ]
 

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I am R1 owner and early reservation on r2, however I want Polaris color launch edition, what would be my window !
Polaris? Do you mean Borealis? If so that is not a Launch Edition color option until 2027.

So far, Rivian only really knows your reservation details, not your paint choice, etc. You might get a fairly early "order window" date, but if you do not act on it (with currently available color options) you will slide down the order queue.

Rivian probably hopes that early reservation holders will be flexible on color choice to get an early delivery. I'm pretty sure they will have enough LE takers in any case.
 
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Not to through a wrench into the queue order conversations but basing this on the initial R1 deliveries, from the outside it will appear that their is no rhyme or reason to the process. Internally I’m sure there will be an order but no one really was able to nail down the R1 process. I’m expecting the R2 process will be similar.

I’m a current R1 owner, answered definitely on LE, reservation within first 10 minutes, 8 miles from an SC and have 3 SCs within 28 miles, no lease, no trade in, so super easy purchase.

In theory I should be pretty early but have no clue or real expectation on when my number will be called.
 

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It hardly seems fair that an R1 owner who makes a reservation today, tomorrow or X months from now should immediately get bumped ahead of a non-R1 owner who made a reservation many months ago. I'd offer the following general algorithm for R1 owner prioritization:

1. Order all reservations by date.

2. For the first 6 weeks of production, serve R1 owners only.

3. For the next 2 months, process the remaining queue in order, BUT ... at least one out of every two cars must go to an R1 owner, so if the queue contains 2 non-R1-owners in a row, reach further down the queue for the next R1 owner in line and bump them to the top.

4. For the next 2 months, do the same as #3 above but make sure at least every third car goes to an R1 owner, etc.

5. Continue this process of gradual de-prioritization of R1 owners until whenever (18 months?), then freeze the queue and just process all remaining reservations in order.

[ Did you get all that, RJ? ]
I suppose I could/should have said "current" R2 reservations (as of June 1?).

I further suppose that "fair" (like beauty) is in the eye of the beholder. Is it "fair" that some unknown person who plunked down a mere $100 refundable deposit 2 years ago should have preference over an existing R1 customer who has already commited $80K or more to Rivian? In this sense, a "reservation" is no more than a "buying signal", not a commitment. A $1000 deposit (a la early Tesla) would be far more convincing. I miss restaurant reservations fairly frequently.

I am sure Rivian's process will be far more nuanced than I outlined (how could it not be?). My point is that it will start in June with an "invitation to order" window, NOT a delivery date.
 
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Not to through a wrench into the queue order conversations but basing this on the initial R1 deliveries, from the outside it will appear that their is no rhyme or reason to the process. Internally I’m sure there will be an order but no one really was able to nail down the R1 process. I’m expecting the R2 process will be similar.

I’m a current R1 owner, answered definitely on LE, reservation within first 10 minutes, 8 miles from an SC and have 3 SCs within 28 miles, no lease, no trade in, so super easy purchase.

In theory I should be pretty early but have no clue or real expectation on when my number will be called.
Yeah, based on my theory (?) you should be up pretty quick. Please post your "order window " when you get it.
 

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I'm in a bind and I need to get both now :) I do have a R2 reservation and have an R1T & R1S. The R1T is in buyback, what I need is another R1T and I can't find the config in stock. R2 reservation from July 2024 so hopefully I can get one early.
 
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I suppose I could/should have said "current" R2 reservations (as of June 1?).

I further suppose that "fair" (like beauty) is in the eye of the beholder. Is it "fair" that some unknown person who plunked down a mere $100 refundable deposit 2 years ago should have preference over an existing R1 customer who has already commited $80K or more to Rivian? In this sense, a "reservation" is no more than a "buying signal", not a commitment. A $1000 deposit (a la early Tesla) would be far more convincing. I miss restaurant reservations fairly frequently.

I am sure Rivian's process will be far more nuanced than I outlined (how could it not be?). My point is that it will start in June with an "invitation to order" window, NOT a delivery date.
Well put.

It is kind of bewildering how many people are mad about R1 owners getting priority. To me, it makes perfect sense. Even if they buy today, let's say just to "skip" the line, they are still putting north of $80k into the company. That is a lot more commitment than $100.

I have no problem with that. I doubt anyone is purchasing an R1 to skip the line, but even if so, still a win for Rivian and also makes sense to keep the current owners happy, specially early owners who had to deal with all the software and service issues over the last few years.

As for the topic in general though, we legit do not know how things will play out. Until we get more info in June, we are still doing guess work. I am optimistic things will start slow and progress quickly. My main guess at when one can expect delivery is configuration. Launch editions with available color + interior options (summer-fall), launch editions with forest green/borealis/light interior (winter) and then premium (winter-2027) and then standard closer to a year from now. If I had to guess, but again, all we are doing at this point.
 

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I'd offer the following general algorithm for R1 owner prioritization:
Isn't there also some kind of location based priority as well (i.e., "Where are you taking delivery?")?

Like proximity to a Rivian SC, which would make sense if they want a good experience with a new platform (as in, it can be serviced quickly, good WOM, etc.).
 

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I can't speak for others who are not R1 owners, but I personally am not mad that R1 owners are getting some degree of priority on R2 reservations. Rewarding early customer loyalty is a good thing. Exactly how much priority and for how long into production that prioritization should extend, however, are hardly unreasonable questions to ask.
 

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Just a thought, but since all of the starting cars will be LE's, the ability to pre-build them to have them in the pipeline should be pretty easy. Aside from color and wheel choice, everything else is just an accessory. Even wheels could easily be replaced and a new Monroney could be printed to have the correct wheel on the color "ordered." This being the case, deliveries could start happening almost immediately once the emails are sent out and each person submits their build.

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