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Yes, especially since the power is the same with the single rear motor. If the battery were smaller (less cells, less voltage) wouldn't the motor output drop?
Yes, all other specs are same as 87.9kwh pack. You would think base would also be lighter via smaller pack. Having same hp/tq the 0-60 should then be better. Battery Usable just says "TBC" because that haven't figure out how much capacity to lock(this is old Tesla move).

Customers hoping for LFP might be disappointed.
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More fodder on towing capacity... Google summary of how it's determined:
"Towing capacity is determined by a vehicle's maximum allowable weight limit, specifically the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCWR) minus its curb weight, as set by the manufacturer based on engine power, braking performance, transmission strength, and chassis rigidity. Key factors include powertrain, suspension, and hitch type"

The cars we know are similar in size to the R2, and their max possible towing capacity (less with lesser powertrains):
2026 Honda CR-V: 1500 lbs
2026 Toyota RAV4 AWD: 3500 lbs
2026 BMW X3 M50: 4850 lbs

R2 Premium & Perf./LE and their 4400-lbs capacity compares well. Plus, how often do owners in this class of cars actually tow?
The Macan EV has a tow rating of 5500 lbs. and it's similar in size to the R2 (I think). There seems to be a phycological barrier when the rating is under 5k, I've seen many complaints of the R2's 4400 lb rating which is normal for a vehicle of this class.
 
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Seeing embargoed R2 spec sheets that were given to press prior to today, they did show 265miles for base R2. Rivian definitely saw feedback online yesterday and changed base to 275+.

Just a guess...but the base model could just be a software locked battery pack. Allowing them to change capacity easily.
The battery is going to be smaller for the base as cutting 20kWh or whatever it works out to be saves thousands of dollars and enables the price to drop $3k.
 

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The Macan EV has a tow rating of 5500 lbs. and it's similar in size to the R2 (I think). There seems to be a phycological barrier when the rating is under 5k, I've seen many complaints of the R2's 4400 lb rating.
No one that tows often wants to haul at the rated limit, they always like to have some reserve for extra cargo, hills, emergency swerves, emergency braking, etc.
 

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There's at least one unconfirmed report that the Coastal Cloud interior isn't available with Launch Edition. It won't be ready as an option till late 2026.

I would wait to see this confirmed from Rivian directly, but kind of lame if this is true.

 
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Agreed. Living in Michigan and travelling to Normal, IL I'm highly spoiled there are three RAN networks nicely placed along that travel corridor. Also, having a '26 R1S with 6 months of RAN access, I'm at about $1,400 in avoided charging costs (13k miles in 5 months). So much so, that I've come to plan trips that include RAN along the travel paths. RAN is a very nice perk and looking at the national map of RAN locations, Michigan is a very RAN-friendly state for the size. There is even a RAN L2 at the very tip of the Keweenaw a mile or two from Copper Harbor, MI. Heck, they don't have cell coverage there but they do have a RAN!
Michigan has far more RAN stations than all other Midwest states combined for some unknown reason, including, ironically, IL. If you look at the RAN network map, and see only RAN stations, there are some pretty big 200+mi holes still in lower 48, specifically, roughly centered around western NY, southern Ohio, central MS, Lubbock TX, Southeast Oregon, and the biggest: the Dakotas.

And all the planned new RANs on the map are mostly out west, near existing RAN stations.

But more important are the planned new SCs, of course.
 
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The battery is going to be smaller for the base as cutting 20kWh or whatever it works out to be saves thousands of dollars and enables the price to drop $3k.
95kwh w/ 87.9kwh usable equates to 7.5% buffer. So 75kwh battery could be 69.4kwh usable capacity using same buffer.

345miles/87.9kwh = 3.95 m/kwh (standard large rwd)
3.95 x 69.4kwh = 274 mile range

So it does math out almost exactly to their base model range est. They could pull a Tesla, which software locked Model Y in 2024 down to 260 miles...when it still had the long range 78kwh battery pack. Either way, I really don't see it being LFP. I feel like they won't spend loads of r&d into base model, when it could get axed prior to R3 launch. Similar to R1S standard.
 

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Hopefully paint and changing interior color are reasonably priced. BMW and Volvo (and more mainstream manufacturers) can do this affordable (eg less than $1000 for paint and a few hundred or free for interior change).
The R1 was expensive because they didn’t make a profit on the base vehicle whereas they do on R2 so they don’t need to gouge the options.
 

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There's at least one unconfirmed report that the Coastal Cloud interior isn't included with Launch Edition.

I would wait to see this confirmed from Rivian directly, but kind of lame if this is true.

I don't see why it would be standard. I am sure it will be at least $3k option. Less than R1S interiors, but still pricey.

Hopefully paint and changing interior color are reasonably priced. BMW and Volvo (and more mainstream manufacturers) can do this affordable (eg less than $1000 for paint and a few hundred or free for interior change).
The R1 was expensive because they didn’t make a profit on the base vehicle whereas they do on R2 so they don’t need to gouge the options.
I got a feeling the margins are going to be in the option pricing. Tesla paint/interiors are high. I don't see Rivian being any less, most likely more expensive.
 

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95kwh w/ 87.9kwh usable equates to 7.5% buffer. So 75kwh battery could be 69.4kwh usable capacity using same buffer.

345miles/87.9kwh = 3.95 m/kwh (standard large rwd)
3.95 x 69.4kwh = 274 mile range
That efficiency seems extremely optimistic to me. I predict real world testing range will be far below EPA. Especially highway range testing. It won't be a good look for Rivian.
 

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I don't see why it would be standard. I am sure it will be at least $3k option. Less than R1S interiors, but still pricey.
The claim from RivianTrackr is that the Coastal Cloud interior won't even be available at all till late 2026. No way to make it an option if it doesn't exist until then.

Edit: I updated the text in my post to clarify the late 2026 wording.
 

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That efficiency seems extremely optimistic to me. I predict real world testing range will be far below EPA. Especially highway range testing. It won't be a good look for Rivian.
I agree. I am actually amazed Rivian was able to get this efficiency number using any of EPA testing cycles. This seems to be what they submitted to EPA. We will see what independent testing gets in mixed driving scenarios.
 

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Hopefully paint and changing interior color are reasonably priced. BMW and Volvo (and more mainstream manufacturers) can do this affordable (eg less than $1000 for paint and a few hundred or free for interior change).
The R1 was expensive because they didn’t make a profit on the base vehicle whereas they do on R2 so they don’t need to gouge the options.
Still a lower production volume compared to BMW and Volvo. Per unit manufacturing cost is still higher.
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