New: Third row heated seats in 2025 R1S Gen 2 Refresh Model

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I believe 3rd Row Seat Heating is new in the R1S, haven't seen that stated yet (source: 2025 R1S Owner's Guide)

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[mkhuffman]

I believe 3rd Row Seat Heating is new in the R1S, haven't seen that stated yet.

That is an excellent feature. It's rare for the third row to be heated.

 

[Killer95Stang]

That is an excellent feature. It's rare for the third row to be heated.

This begs the question... is it needed? I mean, I've only thrown kids back there. These same kids will swim in a 60 degree pool and come back for more. I personally would only get in my pool if the water is above 83 degrees... but I also have a heated drivers seat.

 

[Sparky_Z]

Jeez, the gut punches for us Gen 1 owners just keep coming

 

[Southern R1S]

Jeez, the gut punches for us Gen 1 owners just keep coming

Not for me -- just a gut punch for whatever unlucky soul happens to be sitting in the third-row of my Gen 1 (spoiler alert: it's not going to be me)

 

[Killer95Stang]

Not for me -- just a gut punch for whatever unlucky soul happens to be sitting in the third-row of my Gen 1 (spoiler alert: it's not going to be me)

Right... probably better A/C cooling for the back roow or a physical integrated roof window shade might have been better .

 

[Kidentist]

Ask me how many times I've used the 3rd row on my Q7......

 

[R1Guest]

I guess it’s nice but seems like a waste of money when you’re trying to get to profitability.

 

[SoCal Rob]

Right... probably better A/C cooling for the back roow or a physical integrated roof window shade might have been better .

They really should add a painted roof option where they use a solid (fiberglass, carbon fiber, or similar) panel with the same shape as the existing glass. Attach some thin insulation and matching headliner material underneath and paint the outside surface black (or white for better heat rejection). They could probably get away with a minor upcharge compared to the standard glass roof to cover the costs associated with development and more parts to keep in inventory.

I think they’d be able to use the exact same assembly process since IIRC the existing glass panels are grabbed via suction on the top surface for installation.

 

[Electron]

Now the pets can keep their bum warm.

Much rather would liked to have seen 2nd row peasant shades or a roof shade. Huge missed opportunity.

 

[edman007]

They really should add a painted roof option where they use a solid (fiberglass, carbon fiber, or similar) panel with the same shape as the existing glass. Attach some thin insulation and matching headliner material underneath and paint the outside surface black (or white for better heat rejection). They could probably get away with a minor upcharge compared to the standard glass roof to cover the costs associated with development and more parts to keep in inventory.

I think they’d be able to use the exact same assembly process since IIRC the existing glass panels are grabbed via suction on the top surface for installation.

I think one of the big reasons many of the EVs are adding a glass roof is actually for headroom. You skip the headliner and get 2" of headroom. This is important when you have a 6" thick skateboard under the floor, and when you're trying to reduce vehicle frontal cross sectional area for aero reasons.

If they added a headliner, the roof would be too low.

 

[Electron]

I think one of the big reasons many of the EVs are adding a glass roof is actually for headroom. You skip the headliner and get 2" of headroom. This is important when you have a 6" thick skateboard under the floor, and when you're trying to reduce vehicle frontal cross sectional area for aero reasons.

If they added a headliner, the roof would be too low.

Much of that is true, but it for sure it can be done. The KIA EV9 is a great example. There are some reviewers who are 6'3 and 6'4 who sat comfortably in it and it features a powered roof shade.

Not adding one from the likes of Tesla and Rivian is simply due to cost cutting measures. Understandable at certain price points, but unacceptable for the Model X and Rivian R1 line up.

At least there are third party roof shade screens you could install, which we've had in all of our cars and it provides the best of both worlds of providing heat rejection + retaining the head room as the shade hugs right up against the roof glass.

 

[SoCal Rob]

I think one of the big reasons many of the EVs are adding a glass roof is actually for headroom. You skip the headliner and get 2" of headroom. This is important when you have a 6" thick skateboard under the floor, and when you're trying to reduce vehicle frontal cross sectional area for aero reasons.

If they added a headliner, the roof would be too low.

Maybe I didn’t do a good job of describing what I’m thinking and you’re picturing an entirely different traditional headliner. What I envision would be about 1/4” thicker than the glass currently in place. Imagine if you took the existing glass roof panel and attached a piece of flexible fairly dense foam to the underside. Then attach the material which covers the headliner below that so it matches the surrounding headliner. It wouldn’t be any lower than the sunshades which are in common use and the edges would actually be above the existing headliner so it looks close to continuous without having to make the investment in a different large rigid headliner.

Now, instead of attaching the foam and material to a glass panel, just attach it to a plastic or similar panel which is formed to the exact same shape as the existing glass, and it gets painted on top.

So the headroom reduction would be negligible and the new solid surface would be nowhere near as low as the low points of the existing headliner.

Hopefully that makes more sense.

 

[Kelvn]

If its anything like Tesla, the Glass can also be structural, adding rigidity. Using a similarly rigid piece of plastic I'd imagine would be much thicker, and in steel probably much heavier (Disclaimer: I am not a materials engineer so don't listen to me)

 

[Hercules10]

There is a lot more features that would be appealing to customer than third row heated seats. Mine get used so little. How about 1. Down turn mirrors in reverse. 2. Blind spot view in driver display. 3. Integrate ABRP into the website and app so you can download better map planning. 4. Bring back 12volt socket. So much more to include Apple car play and AA

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