Interesting, just published Rolling Stone article about the Tesla Cybertruck...

[jebinc]

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...-elon-musk-car-safety-ralph-nader-1234921888/

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[COdogman]

I appreciate that they enjoy poking at the Musk fans as much as I do.

 

[jebinc]

I appreciate that they enjoy poking at the Musk fans as much as I do.

Same! The guys is, well, "Charlatan-like"....

 

[DevSecOps]

They, presumably, make the argument that it's unsafe because it weighs over 6k lbs and could harm other motorists. I guess us Rivian owners must be driving extremely dangerous vehicles at over 7k lbs ?.

 

[Throwdown]

They, presumably, make the argument that it's unsafe because it weighs over 6k lbs and could harm other motorists. I guess us Rivian owners must be driving extremely dangerous vehicles at over 7k lbs ?.

Or every f250 and larger truck that's on the road.....idk why people seem to think a regular truck isn't as heavy or heavier, only thing is the rivian is physically smaller, but weight it weight and I see more 2500 series and larger trucks daily than I do rivians

 

[jebinc]

They, presumably, make the argument that it's unsafe because it weighs over 6k lbs and could harm other motorists. I guess us Rivian owners must be driving extremely dangerous vehicles at over 7k lbs ?.

Yeah, that part is comical, for certain - but they didn’t directly “finger,” Rivian. The other stuff is interesting, like FSD, crumple zones, or lack there of.

 

[SANZC02]

They, presumably, make the argument that it's unsafe because it weighs over 6k lbs and could harm other motorists. I guess us Rivian owners must be driving extremely dangerous vehicles at over 7k lbs ?.

Yes, they have been talking about increased dangers of full size SUV and trucks for years. The big difference is most of these vehicles have well designed crumble zones that dissipate a lot of the energy, early videos of the CT do not appear to do that.

Though outer skin is great for door dings but not very forgiving in other impacts. Add all of the sharp angles at the corners and you start to see where they are coming from.

 

[DuoRivians]

They, presumably, make the argument that it's unsafe because it weighs over 6k lbs and could harm other motorists. I guess us Rivian owners must be driving extremely dangerous vehicles at over 7k lbs ?.

Less about the weight but more about the stainless steel exterior against pedestrians and other vehicles

 

[Donald Stanfield]

All of this is speculative until we see an actual published report from a respected agency like the IIHS. The tweet from the Center for Auto Safety is irresponsible. Unless they have access to crash test data that the rest of us do not, they cannot say with any certainty that this truck will perform poorly on crash tests.

After all, if we could tell which vehicle would fare well in a crash simply by looking at one, we wouldn't need to crash-test them at all. Crash testing is a significant expense for the manufacturer, so if crash testing is regularly done, we can safely assume there's a reason for that.

I don't care for these swipes at the cybertruck because they are just making things up without data to back them up. That's wrong, and they lose credibility by doing that. I long for the days when news organizations didn't open their fucking traps until they had verified the information they were spreading. This sensationalist bullshit and inflammatory content to drive views is sickening, and I'm over it. I say this as someone who thinks the Cybertruck is synonymous with a dumpster.

 

[DevSecOps]

Less about the weight but more about the stainless steel exterior against pedestrians and other vehicles

The tweet from the center of auto safety, which the article is based on, is 100% only talking about weight.

 

[DuoRivians]

The tweet from the center of auto safety, which the article is based on, is 100% only talking about weight.

Referring to this paragraph in the article:

“But the Cybertruck, Brooks adds, adds two uniquely troubling factors to this equation: First is the “ultra-hard, cold-rolled stainless steel” exterior, which the center reasons “is much less forgiving than other modern vehicles.” Referring to Musk’s flashy demonstrations of the truck’s toughness, Brooks says: “The Cybertruck can stop a bullet and Joe Rogan’s arrow, but what happens when it strikes a human body? Less yield and more energy transfer resulting in enhanced injuries is the most likely answer.””

 

[SASSquatch]

They, presumably, make the argument that it's unsafe because it weighs over 6k lbs and could harm other motorists. I guess us Rivian owners must be driving extremely dangerous vehicles at over 7k lbs ?.

But - and say what you will about how ugly that CyberYuck™ monstrosity is, it is made of rolled steel. Rolled steel that can take a barrage of bullets, unlike the R1 vehicles that seem to have the thinnest aluminum panels that physics allow.

The difference is when 6K lbs of something with a rolled steel exoskeleton slams into you it is probably going to tear you in half with all of those sharp angles.

 

[jebinc]

But - and say what you will about how ugly that CyberYuck™ monstrosity is, it is made of rolled steel. Rolled steel that can take a barrage of bullets, unlike the R1 vehicles that seem to have the thinnest aluminum panels that physics allow.

The difference is when 6K lbs of something with a rolled steel exoskeleton slams into you it is probably going to tear you in half with all of those sharp angles.

And the G forces the occupants will feel will likely exceed those horrendous ones of those tiny SmartCars, with it’s rolled steel cage!

 

[KingTodd]

The Rolling Stone ? That thing is still in business ?

 

[DevSecOps]

But - and say what you will about how ugly that CyberYuck™ monstrosity is, it is made of rolled steel. Rolled steel that can take a barrage of bullets, unlike the R1 vehicles that seem to have the thinnest aluminum panels that physics allow.

The difference is when 6K lbs of something with a rolled steel exoskeleton slams into you it is probably going to tear you in half with all of those sharp angles.

I agree that it's ugly, but that's personal preference/opinion.

What I disagree with is that it has to be like all other cars. What if this new way of engineering cars with exoskeletons is far safer in the long run? Heck if we take any modern car vs one from the 70s we know who is gonna lose that battle. Should we roll back safety advancements to the 70s? I take issue with people critiquing advancements in technology without there being any data to support their claims. By that logic let's remove semi trucks, armored vans etc and let's just go back to horse and carriage. This really has nothing to do with Tesla, it's about people's refusal to embrace change especially when that change comes from someone they don't like. Let's not forget that Hagerty, a vehicle insurance provider, gave it rave reviews for being the safest truck ever made.

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