Does Lucid Gravity solve many of Rivian R1S issues for families?

[Riviot]

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[wicked2112]

Um... pardon my ignorance but how can anyone have "experience" with the Gravity that is not scheduled to start production till late 2024?

The whole original post seem like some weird AI post..

AGREED!!!

 

[MysticJim345]

Most definitely.

The thing that everyone keeps saying about the Rivian is that it is the best off-roader.

Well, our family has not ever gone off-roading ever before and don’t really plan on it. Only reason we got the R1S is because it was the only 3-row alternative to a Model X. But, now, there will be many more options for us suburban families that aren’t the off-roading type.

I’ll be a day one reservation holder.

Exactly, these new options in the form of EX90, EV9, and Gravity are highlighting some of the shortcomings of R1S and for anyone who is planning to buy a 3-row EV, it makes sense to compare all the features based on their preferences and needs.

 

[MysticJim345]

OP is a troll or AI. No way around it. What a stupid thread.

This stupid thread is trending well. Thanks for your contribution

 

[MysticJim345]

It's very misleading. The Lucid Gravity with 440 miles of range, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds etc. Is going to likely be $140K or more, mirroring the Lucid Air prices. So while all these reviews keep saying how great the vehicle is, and I'm sure it is, the one they're driving is literally almost double the price of a Rivian R1S dual motor. The Lucid Air Pure RWD (the relatively affordable one) is now AWD, does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and has all metal roof. It also doesn't get air suspension for that price, either. Expect more of the same dramatic cost cutting to get any trim of the Gravity below $80K. But yeah, if you want to pay 50-100% more I'm sure you'll get some advantages like a bigger guage cluster screen and more range. Personally I like that Rivian actually has service centers near me and are building more. I can't drive from central CT to the middle of Long Island to service a Lucid.

Specs for 80K variant of Gravity have not been announced. Even if your speculations based on Lucid Air are correct, base Gravity will most definitely have better range than base Rivian ($78K) and charging speed will be much better as well. At the same time, Rivian is taking away a lot of stuff including original speaker system to reduce the cost of the vehicle. The way prices of EVs are going down due to Tesla competition, I dont see a 50-100% difference of price in this class unless you compare a base rivian R1S with a Dream edition or Gravity Sapphire. Like mentioned above, base prices of the two are pretty close $80K vs. $78K.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Worth putting a reservation in for if you need a new minivan for travel. Towing range will probably end up less than the R1S because of the smaller battery pack. Charging rate can only make up for it if you can actually make it to the next "ultra fast" charger.

 

[Epicloop]

Hey Rivian community!

I've been watching some Lucid Gravity YouTube videos lately. I have a Rivian order pending and have test-driven both R1T and R1S. I am sharing my thoughts on the Lucid Gravity, specifically from the perspective of daily commuting and family hauling. Both vehicles are impressive but cater to slightly different preferences and priorities. Let me know if you agree or disagree with my analysis.

1. Charging and Range:
The Lucid Gravity has caught my attention regarding charging capabilities and range. Its advanced charging technology and impressive range offer a more practical and convenient solution for daily commuting and road-tripping. The maximum 440-mile range of Gravity with a much smaller battery is incredible, and fast charging of 200 miles in 15 minutes with 900V architecture is game-changing for a 3-row SUV. I understand that the charging network could be better for non-Teslas, but that is changing soon.

2. Third-Row Space:
The third-row space is crucial if you're looking for a family hauler. The R1S offers a third row, but from what I've gathered from my limited time with Rivians and various videos of Gravity, the Lucid Gravity seems to provide more comfortable and spacious seating in the back. This extra room could significantly improve those long family road trips.

3. Potential CarPlay Integration:
As a daily commuter, seamless integration with technology is essential. Lucid Air has Apple CarPlay integration, so I expect potential CarPlay integration in Gravity's infotainment, making it a tech-savvy choice for those who rely on their iPhones all the time for their digital lives.

4. Seat Comfort:
Comfort is paramount for a 3-row SUV and Lucid Gravity seems to excel in this department. Reports suggest that the seats in the Gravity are not only luxurious but also designed with long-term comfort in mind. Gravity seats seem better than the R1S seats, which are just ok in providing comfort.

5. Better Interior Space Utilization
Bigger dimensions of R1S do not translate into a roomier interior for some reason (maybe a long hood). It seems Lucid was able to design a better interior with more space.

In summary, while the Rivian R1S is undoubtedly geared towards adventure and off-road enthusiasts, the Lucid Gravity appears to be a more well-rounded option for those prioritizing daily commuting and family comfort. The better charging speed, extended range, spacious third-row, potential CarPlay integration, and superior seat comfort make the Gravity a strong contender in the electric SUV market, especially for those who see their vehicle as both a daily driver and a family hauler.

What are your thoughts on this comparison? I'd love to hear the community's insights and experiences with both models!

I think you have a bunch of valid points. If you don't need the Rivian's SUV credentials the Gravity is likely a better family city Wagon.
No one has experience with the Gravity though.

 

[MysticJim345]

Of course R1S dual motor performance with the max battery pack, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, 400 mile range... 99K on sale now not in 2025 sometime.

I have waited for almost 3 years for Rivian to get their act together and deliver the R1S. Now I can wait a little more to get something better. Buying a Rivian with today's specs feels like buying an iPhone X. It seems Rivian's focus will be on R2 platform in the near future and that platform may be better than the R1 platform if they execute it correctly. R1 platform in its current form without 800V architecture, heat pump, CarPlay integration, refined thermal management, refined interior design and utilization or even a working wireless charger just not offer future proofing for the price of this vehicle.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I have waited for almost 3 years for Rivian to get their act together and deliver the R1S

And yet you just joined the forum to post about the lucid? What have you been doing the last three years? Responding to you was a waste of my time. Good luck with your Gravity if Lucid makes it.

 

[brancky3]

base Gravity will most definitely have better range than base Rivian ($78K)

completely off topic but I’ve never even thought of Rivian having a “base” model. It’s interesting because I guess I’d consider a dual motor Rivian the base model, regardless of battery size. But sometime else might call the large pack base model, regardless of motors.

 

[Smlee]

Many people have multiple EVs and one home charger and charging every night is either not possible or not practical.

I understand you guys love rivian and just do not like the post but please provide some more meaningful reply.

I think you are right and they serve 2 different customers. If you never plan to go off road or camping. Maybe the Lucid is your thing. The R1 line is meant for multi role. I’m glad capable EV’s are hitting the market. You nailed the post with pro’s and con’s, now you need to make decision based on your needs.

 

[WorldComposting]

Hey Rivian community!

I've been watching some Lucid Gravity YouTube videos lately. I have a Rivian order pending and have test-driven both R1T and R1S. I am sharing my thoughts on the Lucid Gravity, specifically from the perspective of daily commuting and family hauling. Both vehicles are impressive but cater to slightly different preferences and priorities. Let me know if you agree or disagree with my analysis.

1. Charging and Range:
The Lucid Gravity has caught my attention regarding charging capabilities and range. Its advanced charging technology and impressive range offer a more practical and convenient solution for daily commuting and road-tripping. The maximum 440-mile range of Gravity with a much smaller battery is incredible, and fast charging of 200 miles in 15 minutes with 900V architecture is game-changing for a 3-row SUV. I understand that the charging network could be better for non-Teslas, but that is changing soon.

2. Third-Row Space:
The third-row space is crucial if you're looking for a family hauler. The R1S offers a third row, but from what I've gathered from my limited time with Rivians and various videos of Gravity, the Lucid Gravity seems to provide more comfortable and spacious seating in the back. This extra room could significantly improve those long family road trips.

3. Potential CarPlay Integration:
As a daily commuter, seamless integration with technology is essential. Lucid Air has Apple CarPlay integration, so I expect potential CarPlay integration in Gravity's infotainment, making it a tech-savvy choice for those who rely on their iPhones all the time for their digital lives.

4. Seat Comfort:
Comfort is paramount for a 3-row SUV and Lucid Gravity seems to excel in this department. Reports suggest that the seats in the Gravity are not only luxurious but also designed with long-term comfort in mind. Gravity seats seem better than the R1S seats, which are just ok in providing comfort.

5. Better Interior Space Utilization
Bigger dimensions of R1S do not translate into a roomier interior for some reason (maybe a long hood). It seems Lucid was able to design a better interior with more space.

In summary, while the Rivian R1S is undoubtedly geared towards adventure and off-road enthusiasts, the Lucid Gravity appears to be a more well-rounded option for those prioritizing daily commuting and family comfort. The better charging speed, extended range, spacious third-row, potential CarPlay integration, and superior seat comfort make the Gravity a strong contender in the electric SUV market, especially for those who see their vehicle as both a daily driver and a family hauler.

What are your thoughts on this comparison? I'd love to hear the community's insights and experiences with both models!

1) While the 800v architecture will help we will still need to wait till it is out and see if Rivian also has an refresh that includes 800v which is a possibility by the time the Gravity is available

2) I have an R1S and a Subaru Ascent and I really don't trust any reviewers on 3rd row room. If you need that space you really need a Suburban or a Minivan. I don't think the Gravity will be some amazing 3rd row vehicle for long trips. I use the third row for short (less than 1 hour) trips but anything longer probably won't work unless your kids are under 10.

3) I do see the Rivian Nav as a major issue with the vehicle it is horrible at best and a liability at times with traffic being unusable and speed limits being way off. If they could get this working better it would change my opinion but if they don't they will need to add CP/AA or this will become an issue

4) We will need to wait to see how the seats are. Rivian seats are very comfortable for me even on long trips (1,000 miles) but my wife hates them. Gravity seems to have anchored head rests which is an issue in the Rivian so I'm not convinced they are going to be better. 2nd row captains chairs would be nice in the Rivian.

5) I have never felt like there is a lack of space in the Rivian even with my teenage sons who are tall as me. I even had 6 of us in the car (about 6 foot) without any issue. I'm curious if the Gravity will have lower seats where as the Rivian seats are very tall. Again I don't really trust reviewers on this so we will have to wait and see.

I have waited for almost 3 years for Rivian to get their act together and deliver the R1S. Now I can wait a little more to get something better. Buying a Rivian with today's specs feels like buying an iPhone X. It seems Rivian's focus will be on R2 platform in the near future and that platform may be better than the R1 platform if they execute it correctly. R1 platform in its current form without 800V architecture, heat pump, CarPlay integration, refined thermal management, refined interior design and utilization or even a working wireless charger just not offer future proofing for the price of this vehicle.

I wouldn't say the Rivian is better or worse but they have different goals. Rivian is looking to be an offroad vehicle aka Land Rover, 4Runner, or Jeep. Where the Gravity is looking to be a comfort cruiser like MB, MBW, and Audi offerings.

As far as what the R1 is missing these could be added before the Gravity ever ships in 2025 so we will have to see what happens.

I'm excited that the Gravity is a full EV compared to the other 3 row offerings from Kia and Volvo. I don't know how these vehicles keep leaving out a usable frunk which is one of the best things when taking the Rivian on trips. I'm glad competition is coming out and hope that it leads to more people getting into EVs.

 

[mkhuffman]

Nothing I guess, always good to have options. Just curious...does Rivian's lack of Zune support bother you like the lack of Apple CarPlay bothers others?

I prefer using the Google Maps navigation app on my phone, because it allows me to report speed traps and road hazards. AA does not. And AA is not able to estimate the charge at destination, which is really important when on a trip. So no, it doesn't bother me there is no CP or AA option in the R1.

 

[Miketz]

I am surprised to see no one addressed the driving dynamics of the R1S and the Lucid. If the Gravity driving Dynamics are as good as the Lucid air I am trading in the R1S for the Gravity. If not the R1S stays.

 

[4mk]

Hey Rivian community!

I've been watching some Lucid Gravity YouTube videos lately. I have a Rivian order pending and have test-driven both R1T and R1S. I am sharing my thoughts on the Lucid Gravity, specifically from the perspective of daily commuting and family hauling. Both vehicles are impressive but cater to slightly different preferences and priorities. Let me know if you agree or disagree with my analysis.

1. Charging and Range:
The Lucid Gravity has caught my attention regarding charging capabilities and range. Its advanced charging technology and impressive range offer a more practical and convenient solution for daily commuting and road-tripping. The maximum 440-mile range of Gravity with a much smaller battery is incredible, and fast charging of 200 miles in 15 minutes with 900V architecture is game-changing for a 3-row SUV. I understand that the charging network could be better for non-Teslas, but that is changing soon.

2. Third-Row Space:
The third-row space is crucial if you're looking for a family hauler. The R1S offers a third row, but from what I've gathered from my limited time with Rivians and various videos of Gravity, the Lucid Gravity seems to provide more comfortable and spacious seating in the back. This extra room could significantly improve those long family road trips.

3. Potential CarPlay Integration:
As a daily commuter, seamless integration with technology is essential. Lucid Air has Apple CarPlay integration, so I expect potential CarPlay integration in Gravity's infotainment, making it a tech-savvy choice for those who rely on their iPhones all the time for their digital lives.

4. Seat Comfort:
Comfort is paramount for a 3-row SUV and Lucid Gravity seems to excel in this department. Reports suggest that the seats in the Gravity are not only luxurious but also designed with long-term comfort in mind. Gravity seats seem better than the R1S seats, which are just ok in providing comfort.

5. Better Interior Space Utilization
Bigger dimensions of R1S do not translate into a roomier interior for some reason (maybe a long hood). It seems Lucid was able to design a better interior with more space.

In summary, while the Rivian R1S is undoubtedly geared towards adventure and off-road enthusiasts, the Lucid Gravity appears to be a more well-rounded option for those prioritizing daily commuting and family comfort. The better charging speed, extended range, spacious third-row, potential CarPlay integration, and superior seat comfort make the Gravity a strong contender in the electric SUV market, especially for those who see their vehicle as both a daily driver and a family hauler.

What are your thoughts on this comparison? I'd love to hear the community's insights and experiences with both models!

Do you actually own an R1S ? Do you have experience with both vehicles? This sounds like a marketing piece for Lucid. Do members have to expose who they work for here or are they receiving compensation in any way for a company?

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