Frustrated today with route planner and "send to vehicle"

[AfroRick]

It's literally the same. People having weird positioning bugs likely either have a GPS issue or just a poor GPS lock as I haven't seen anything like that in my truck.

Interesting. I'm guessing they are somehow facading over Atlas then. Can't imagine all of our cars are hitting the Mapbox API endpoints all day

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[defcon888]

IMO, the best solution for now is to input the desired charger/stop as your destination. The nav will definitely improve over time, let's stop beating the dead screen projection horse..

I agree.....that is what updates are for. What I like to do is use Apple Maps because it connects to my Apple Ultra Watch and will vibrate when I need to make a turn.....I use it hand in hand with the map program.

 

[shandel]

I like the direction Rivian is going with the home-grown navigation system. I like that they bought ABRP and are integrating it deeply into the system. I like that the core navigation system has a route finder and explicit features that help you find chargers along the route that are based on your actual vehicle type, your actual mileage remaining. I have tried using Apple CarPlay for this in my wife's Audi and the experience is terrible. CarPlay sits on top of the core operating system experience and feels very janky compared to native apps. CarPlan cannot easily take advantage of in-vehicle data unless Apple builds it into their operating system.

 

[defcon888]

I like the direction Rivian is going with the home-grown navigation system. I like that they bought ABRP and are integrating it deeply into the system. I like that the core navigation system has a route finder and explicit features that help you find chargers along the route that are based on your actual vehicle type, your actual mileage remaining. I have tried using Apple CarPlay for this in my wife's Audi and the experience is terrible. CarPlay sits on top of the core operating system experience and feels very janky compared to native apps. CarPlan cannot easily take advantage of in-vehicle data unless Apple builds it into their operating system.

great points. I do like Apple Maps as I said above because it links to my iWatch and will alert me when I am driving. I like that you mentioned that they are integrating it more and more and it will find you chargers based on the vehicle.

 

[azbill]

Does anyone know who provides the map data for Rivian, and how to report errors?

I have had issues of bad routing to/from my home, and discovered the map thinks the alley behind my house is the same name as my street. It is really just a gravel right-of-way, not a street at all.

Another thing I found is that the maps do not recognize HOV lane interchanges that are different than the main interchanges between routes. It gets totally confused and starts re-routing in several different directions. In Phoenix we have many HOV lanes and some additional ramps for those. My Ford is smart enough to tell me to take the HOV ramp, when I am in the HOV lane.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Does anyone know who provides the map data for Rivian, and how to report errors?

I have had issues of bad routing to/from my home, and discovered the map thinks the alley behind my house is the same name as my street. It is really just a gravel right-of-way, not a street at all.

Another thing I found is that the maps do not recognize HOV lane interchanges that are different than the main interchanges between routes. It gets totally confused and starts re-routing in several different directions. In Phoenix we have many HOV lanes and some additional ramps for those. My Ford is smart enough to tell me to take the HOV ramp, when I am in the HOV lane.

MapBox.

https://docs.mapbox.com/help/troubleshooting/reporting-a-problem/

 

[azbill]

CarPlan cannot easily take advantage of in-vehicle data unless Apple builds it into their operating system.

Assume you meant CarPlay. With Ford and Porsche they are connected to the in car data. And it works very well, I actually tried it on a trip once. The OEM has to allow CarPlay to access the data, which we know Rivian will never do.

I don't really want to use Apple or Google, I would prefer to use the on board nav. But it first needs to work, and so far it does not, at least not well enough for good trip planning and long range navigation.

 

[shandel]

Does anyone know who provides the map data for Rivian, and how to report errors?

I have had issues of bad routing to/from my home, and discovered the map thinks the alley behind my house is the same name as my street. It is really just a gravel right-of-way, not a street at all.

Another thing I found is that the maps do not recognize HOV lane interchanges that are different than the main interchanges between routes. It gets totally confused and starts re-routing in several different directions. In Phoenix we have many HOV lanes and some additional ramps for those. My Ford is smart enough to tell me to take the HOV ramp, when I am in the HOV lane.

I believe it's Mapbox data. You can go to their web site and provide edits to the data that they can accept. I added the houses on my street.

 

[Lhhaus]

I had a pretty frustrating and annoying trip today. I was making a 3-hour trip home from the beach with a couple of stops and knew I'd need one fast charging session. At my last stop, I used the phone app, entered my home address, and it generated a route that included 15 minutes of charging at a nearby EVGo station. I checked EVGo's app to verify availability and saw one 350kw station and one 100kw station were available. So I clicked "send to vehicle" and started following the navigation.

5 miles later I arrived at a totally different charging station, a Volta station with 28kw "fast" chargers. I was annoyed but decided to give it a try, but after only getting 14 miles in 10 minutes, I gave up and navigated to the EVGo station I wanted in the first place where I connected to the 350kw station.

My trip home became at least 45 minutes longer because of all this. This was my first time in this city (Wilmington, DE) so I didn't really know my way around and just trusted the onboard navigation to take me where I wanted to go.

I guess I'm mostly just here to complain, but also maybe to ask if others have had a similar experience? If I design a route in the app and send it to the vehicle, am I crazy to expect that the route that I planned on my phone should be the one that comes up in the vehicle navigation?!?

I have found the trip planner to be missing accurate information on other charging networks, making it impossible to use. I checked Rivian's info vs. the Electrify America app on two chargers I'm familiar with. Rivian showed them as full and 150kw, when they were actually available and 350kw fast chargers when you look at the individual app for EA (I verified this in person). Now I only use Rivian to identify charging stations on my route, then I use each individual app to know how fast they are, and how many stations there are, and in advance I check the app at the days/times I'm likely to arrive to see how busy they are. I recently travelled from Northern to Southern California. The Rivian app wanted me to stop twice, when it was so much easier to stop once at a great EA station with 10 fast chargers halfway. I forced the planner to use this charger and sent it to my car, but then it continually tried to reroute me throughout the drive. I've found that it's a MUST to get the trip planner aligned with the actual stops so that the car preps the battery for fast charging. I wish there was a setting to turn off the rerouting to different chargers once you've set a route. The main issue I think is that Rivian isn't getting accurate charging station information from the different charging companies, not sure why the integrations don't get the same level of detail as in the proprietary apps. The other benefit of planning your own route is that you can pick a station next to other amenities (like a Starbucks which always has good bathrooms).

I also compare the routing to Waze, and it still almost always chooses an odd circuitous route for part of any trip and so I have to keep Waze open as well.

 

[emoore]

I have found the trip planner to be missing accurate information on other charging networks, making it impossible to use. I checked Rivian's info vs. the Electrify America app on two chargers I'm familiar with. Rivian showed them as full and 150kw, when they were actually available and 350kw fast chargers when you look at the individual app for EA (I verified this in person). Now I only use Rivian to identify charging stations on my route, then I use each individual app to know how fast they are, and how many stations there are, and in advance I check the app at the days/times I'm likely to arrive to see how busy they are. I recently travelled from Northern to Southern California. The Rivian app wanted me to stop twice, when it was so much easier to stop once at a great EA station with 10 fast chargers halfway. I forced the planner to use this charger and sent it to my car, but then it continually tried to reroute me throughout the drive. I've found that it's a MUST to get the trip planner aligned with the actual stops so that the car preps the battery for fast charging. I wish there was a setting to turn off the rerouting to different chargers once you've set a route. The main issue I think is that Rivian isn't getting accurate charging station information from the different charging companies, not sure why the integrations don't get the same level of detail as in the proprietary apps. The other benefit of planning your own route is that you can pick a station next to other amenities (like a Starbucks which always has good bathrooms).

I also compare the routing to Waze, and it still almost always chooses an odd circuitous route for part of any trip and so I have to keep Waze open as well.

The Rivian nav doesn’t provide EA availability. they will all just show - instead of available chargers.

 

[rockandrollray]

I had a pretty frustrating and annoying trip today. I was making a 3-hour trip home from the beach with a couple of stops and knew I'd need one fast charging session. At my last stop, I used the phone app, entered my home address, and it generated a route that included 15 minutes of charging at a nearby EVGo station. I checked EVGo's app to verify availability and saw one 350kw station and one 100kw station were available. So I clicked "send to vehicle" and started following the navigation.

5 miles later I arrived at a totally different charging station, a Volta station with 28kw "fast" chargers. I was annoyed but decided to give it a try, but after only getting 14 miles in 10 minutes, I gave up and navigated to the EVGo station I wanted in the first place where I connected to the 350kw station.

My trip home became at least 45 minutes longer because of all this. This was my first time in this city (Wilmington, DE) so I didn't really know my way around and just trusted the onboard navigation to take me where I wanted to go.

I guess I'm mostly just here to complain, but also maybe to ask if others have had a similar experience? If I design a route in the app and send it to the vehicle, am I crazy to expect that the route that I planned on my phone should be the one that comes up in the vehicle navigation?!?

Something has gotten messed up over one of these updates. I completely map out a trip, send it to my vehicle. Get in the vehicle and it's trying to give me a completely different route. I start driving the route I originally wanted and I'm waiting for it to adjust the directions and it keeps trying to make me turn around and take another route. I finally just turn the gps off, keep driving my intended route and turn it back on 10/15 minutes later and THEN it finally gives me the directions I originally requested. It never used to do this before the ABRP purchase but it's a very annoying glitch.

 

[godfodder0901]

Something has gotten messed up over one of these updates. I completely map out a trip, send it to my vehicle. Get in the vehicle and it's trying to give me a completely different route. I start driving the route I originally wanted and I'm waiting for it to adjust the directions and it keeps trying to make me turn around and take another route. I finally just turn the gps off, keep driving my intended route and turn it back on 10/15 minutes later and THEN it finally gives me the directions I originally requested. It never used to do this before the ABRP purchase but it's a very annoying glitch.

I don't think this is a glitch, but a misunderstanding/misrepresentation. When sending a 'route' to the vehicle, it actually just sends the destination and the vehicle recalculates the route.

 

[defcon888]

Something has gotten messed up over one of these updates. I completely map out a trip, send it to my vehicle. Get in the vehicle and it's trying to give me a completely different route. I start driving the route I originally wanted and I'm waiting for it to adjust the directions and it keeps trying to make me turn around and take another route. I finally just turn the gps off, keep driving my intended route and turn it back on 10/15 minutes later and THEN it finally gives me the directions I originally requested. It never used to do this before the ABRP purchase but it's a very annoying glitch.

I know Rivian purchased ABRP and they have incorporated some of it into the nav system, but on the app (or the nav on the truck) you can't add waypoints like you can on the ABRP app or webpage of ABRP....wish they would add that so you can plan your stops where you want to stop with reliable chargers.

 

[bd5400]

I ran into this issue for the first time last weekend while towing. I used the app on my phone to plan the route, jumping back and forth between the app and google maps so I could check street view of the charger. I selected the route that used a charger that had plenty of room around it to not worry about the auto trailer I was pulling and sent it to the car.

I assumed that the selected route would be sent to the car but as already said in this thread, that isn’t the case. It just sends the destination to the car and I had to re-select the correct route.

Even worse, the nav re-routed me mid-trip, without warning, to a charger that was closer to my destination, presumably because I was getting good efficiency. The new charger, however, was in a crowded grocery store parking lot with very little room to maneuver a trailer and it was a pain to try to properly position myself. If the trailer was any larger I would have been unable to charge without leaving the trailer somewhere else.

 

[happyjohn14]

Something has gotten messed up over one of these updates. I completely map out a trip, send it to my vehicle. Get in the vehicle and it's trying to give me a completely different route. I start driving the route I originally wanted and I'm waiting for it to adjust the directions and it keeps trying to make me turn around and take another route. I finally just turn the gps off, keep driving my intended route and turn it back on 10/15 minutes later and THEN it finally gives me the directions I originally requested. It never used to do this before the ABRP purchase but it's a very annoying glitch.

Totally. I am back to using Google Nav on my phone. I had 30 miles of range and was 10 miles from a fast charger, it wanted to detour in the opposite direction and do a precharge when I made it to my primary charger with plenty to spare. Not the first time its done this. Not a fan of the builtin app even after the update.

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