Rivian Charger vs. Enel X Juicebox vs. Chargepoint Home Flex

[ansky]

Well just confirmed (for Colorado) if I want the $500 rebate offered by my energy company I HAVE to do the Enel X or the CP. so that rules out the Rivian charger or anything else for that matter…

Yeah I've been going through this to with Xcel here in CO and spoke to them the other day about the incentives. Looking like CP for me as well and seems like it's a great option.

edit: congrats on the same est window!

Sponsored

 

[SilverII]

i've been using a CP homeflex for a year now. No issues - Highly recommend it

 

[moosehead]

JB also has a 48a charger it just may not be in stock, which seems common.

We have the CP Flex and it is solid for both our EV’s, and its app is reasonably useful both at home and for the CP network. As you note, the Xcel rebate is decent in CO.

 

[Davethadog]

ChargePoint home flex advertises 50 amps with a charger that has a 14-50 plug. What they mean is that you can plug in to a 50a circuit and draw 40a. I think that’s shitty marketing and for that reason I think the juice box is the best option. The Rivian charger sucks.

 

[Vegoelectric]

In Sonoma county (CA) we received free after rebate chargers and I got enel juice box. I was able to get the non-hardwire version so it is able to be taken with me if I move or whatever. I don't think 40 vs 48 matters for a home charger. Most home charging allows more than enough time. Less amperage is easier on the batteries over the long haul by a small margin. I think you said the enel was going to be cheaper if so I would go with that. At same price I'd go with the 48, just my two cents.

 

[Gamma rays]

Juice box allows load sharing...ChargePoint does not.

I think I understand load sharing. How important is it for a household with 2 or more BEVs?

GR

 

[R1Sky Business]

I think I understand load sharing. How important is it for a household with 2 or more BEVs?

GR

U can charge 2 cars at same time. May be able to use current electrical panel without need to expand it at considerable cost.

 

[Gamma rays]

U can charge 2 cars at same time. May be able to use current electrical panel without need to expand it at considerable cost.

So, without load sharing, even if my panel has enough space for additional breakers for installation of 2 EVSE, they can still be only operated one at a time without running the risk of overloading the circuit?

If that's the case, how do multi-EV households get around this? Adding additional panels?

GR

 

[NY_Rob]

^ Each EVSE would be on it's own circuit/have it's own dedicated breaker. So both vehicles could charge at the same time as long as those two devices plus whatever else is running in the house doesn't max out the main panel master breaker.

Or, as is the case in my house, I have a Juicebox for my i3 and a Tesla EVSE for the Model 3 on the same 40amp circuit (both units are set to 32amp limit). We simply don't charge both vehicles at the same time... it's never been a problem because both vehicles are driven approximately 50mi/day so with one having 120mi range and the other having 350mi range there is never a clash over who's charging when. The BMW is charged for 4 hrs every other day, and the Model 3 is only driven three days/week so it just gets charged on the weekend.

 

[krockett]

If you have solar or are planning to get it in the future, you may want to consider the Wallbox Pulsar Plus.

https://wattlogic.com/blog/wallbox-vs-chargepoint/

 

[Monkey]

I don't have any experience with the JuiceBox, but I've installed a few ChargePoint Home Flex chargers. The ChargePoint units are great. The only complaint I have is that you can't have multiple chargers on an account. Wish I would have learned that before I installed a few of them and found out after the fact. They claim they're working on this, but it's a pain if I want to manage a charger with the app I have to sign in and out of individual accounts for each.

 

[Gamma rays]

^ Each EVSE would be on it's own circuit/have it's own dedicated breaker. So both vehicles could charge at the same time as long as those two devices plus whatever else is running in the house doesn't max out the main panel master breaker.

Or, as is the case in my house, I have a Juicebox for my i3 and a Tesla EVSE for the Model 3 on the same 40amp circuit (both units are set to 32amp limit). We simply don't charge both vehicles at the same time... it's never been a problem because both vehicles are driven approximately 50mi/day so with one having 120mi range and the other having 350mi range there is never a clash over who's charging when. The BMW is charged for 4 hrs every other day, and the Model 3 is only driven three days/week so it just gets charged on the weekend.

Thanks. I am trying to figure out what kind of set up I might want if my R1S ever gets delivered. Since I won't get it until 2024 at the earliest, I have plenty of time. My current plan is to switch over to BEV when it's time to replace our current vehicles (I usually keep them 10+ years).

I initially thought I would get the R1S sometime in 2023, then followed by another BEV in 2024, depending on how the transition goes. Now, it looks like I might get one (hopefully R1S) in 2024 and the next in 2025.

GR

 

[atebit]

The Rivian (or most EVs that is) will max out at 48 amps using AC.

FTFY

 

[NY_Rob]

Thanks. I am trying to figure out what kind of set up I might want if my R1S ever gets delivered. Since I won't get it until 2024 at the earliest, I have plenty of time. My current plan is to switch over to BEV when it's time to replace our current vehicles (I usually keep them 10+ years).

I initially thought I would get the R1S sometime in 2023, then followed by another BEV in 2024, depending on how the transition goes. Now, it looks like I might get one (hopefully R1S) in 2024 and the next in 2025.

GR

Well, to tell you the truth.. the only reason I have two EVSE's sharing one circuit is because I'm lazy and don't want to trench another run (50') out to where the EVSE's are. Having two EVSE's on one circuit has never caused any inconvenience for us due to our driving and use patterns. If there were conflicts and it became a chore to figure who's plugging in and when.. then I'd run a new independent circuit out to one of the EVSE's.
If you don't have anything set up yet... run two circuits by all means.

Sponsored