How much do you pay for energy to charge at home?

[ajdelange]

What do you do in the winter?

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[mpw81]

$0.10 per kWh here in Denver. (Between 7pm and 1pm)

Adding a little more context for Denver. This is the full menu of rates for Denver (All of Xcel Colorado) for both seasons.

Thankful for this thread because my Tesla app had lower rates (1 cent lower for each item, must have been pre-price increase) so I was able to update.

It's entertaining to watch my tesla app and see the solar bank the powerwall until 1 Pm, and then just crank energy back to the grid @ 27 cents a kWh non-stop from 1-7 while the house runs off the powerwall.

 

[Mark_AZR1T]

What do you do in the winter?

The lowest production day is typically around the winter solstice, and we made about 4.1 kWh peak. However, our load at this time is almost non-existent, so we wake up with 60-70% battery almost every day. We can use excess supply for the Rivian.....or sell it to our neighbors .

What do you do?

 

[Mark_AZR1T]

Adding a little more context for Denver. This is the full menu of rates for Denver (All of Xcel Colorado) for both seasons.

Thankful for this thread because my Tesla app had lower rates (1 cent lower for each item, must have been pre-price increase) so I was able to update.

It's entertaining to watch my tesla app and see the solar bank the powerwall until 1 Pm, and then just crank energy back to the grid @ 27 cents a kWh non-stop from 1-7 while the house runs off the powerwall.

Very interesting. Net metering at $ .27 ??!!

Our utility lost a final appeal in court recently and will be forced to reinstitute net metering at some point. At present we only get $.0022 per kWh sold back, so I'd rather lower the AC temp than sell it SRP...

 

[ajdelange]

What do you do?

I don't or more precisely I haven't yet which is why I wanted to know what others do. They didn't get the Powerwalls on line until February so I have no data from December or January.

In December NREL says I should get 3.5 hFSE/d which, with 80% efficiency, would give me about 35 kWh/da. That should be enough to keep the whole building at 50°F as long as it is 22°F outside or at 60 °F as long as it is at least 30 °F out. And that leaves nothing over for charging the vehicles. So I expect i'll turn off the heat pumps and go on propane backup for those months if I have to.

 

[JeremyP]

Our Xcel rate is around .13 (haven't switched to TOU yet) but I installed my 13.7kw solar system last year so I just pay a $5.60/month minimum fee for electricity and have a couple hundred dollars of credit built up and plan to switch to a heat pump water heater and mini-splits soon. I installed the solar for around $1.10/watt vs the quotes I got of $4.00/watt. After the tax credit my cost is closer to $0.80/watt so it's a pretty quick payback!

My cost is .03/kwh if the solar cost is spread over 25 years, so I tell people that charging our bmw I3 is equivalent to $0.30/gallon gas!

 

[Count Orlok]

for the past 1,196 days Rivian has saved me tons of electricity!

 

[jjswan33]

Thats a sweet price. My utility (PGE) in OR charges ~14 cents/kWh at all times (I pay extra for the ‘green’ plan) but that is only what I pay over and above what my 8kW PV system produces

So to update turns out I can get TOU rates from PGE in the Portland area. Even better it sounds like net metering applies in nearly the most beneficial way. First to the rate when the energy was produced and then to the next highest rate by billing period.

It will take a couple billing cycles to get switched and I was told I need a new meter but I suspect I should be able to completely power my house with the PV system and then charge the R1T between 10pm - 6am at 4.12 cents/kWh. That should save me around $5 for every 100 miles I drive bringing it down to around 2 cents/mile ?

 

[Mark_AZR1T]

So to update turns out I can get TOU rates from PGE in the Portland area. Even better it sounds like net metering applies in nearly the most beneficial way. First to the rate when the energy was produced and then to the next highest rate by billing period.

It will take a couple billing cycles to get switched and I was told I need a new meter but I suspect I should be able to completely power my house with the PV system and then charge the R1T between 10pm - 6am at 4.12 cents/kWh. That should save me around $5 for every 100 miles I drive bringing it down to around 2 cents/mile ?

$0.0412 is amazing!!!!

 

[ajdelange]

Our utility lost a final appeal in court recently and will be forced to reinstitute net metering at some point. At present we only get $.0022 per kWh sold back,

To those who have or are considering solar: Net metering is a wonderful concept for the user and anathema to the utility who will do everything in their power to get the state rate commission to rescind it, reduce the price they have to pay 20 0.22¢/kWh, allow them to charge demand fees, add various other fees...But some of these costs come back because you will be selling RECs (Renewable Energy Credits).

 

[time]

My rate is 21 cents per kw with no discount for peak/off peak. Its unfortunately high but way cheaper than gas

 

[nc10]

My current rate is:

RATE Service availability charge @ $.78 per day ($23/month)
First 200 kWh per month @ 8.63¢ per kWh
Next 800 kWh per month @ 8.45¢ per kWh
Over 1,000 kWh per month @ 9.62¢ per kWh
(cut and pasted from Rate plan doc)

WHOLESALE POWER COST ADJUSTMENT CHARGE The Cooperative's Wholesale Power Cost Adjustment Charge will apply to all kilowatthours sold under this Schedule.

The power adjustment charge has been 0.92¢ last couple months, so I'm incrementally paying about $0.105/kwh (10 1/2 cents) plus a $23/month connection fee in summer months

I've signed up for a EV plan from my power company, put in a separate meter for the EV charger today. The rate will drop by half if I charge late at night:

EV RATE
Service availability charge @ $0.20 per day
On-Peak KWH @ 15.0 ¢ per kWh
Off-Peak KWH @ 4.20 ¢ per kWh Off-Peak hours are defined as 10 PM to 6 AM every day.
On-Peak hours are defined as all hours not defined as Off-Peak.
(cut and pasted from Rate plan doc)
Plus the wholesale power rate adjustment.

For my EV charging between 10pm and 6am, my rate will be $6/month plus $0.051/kwh w rate adj charge (~ 200 miles, for $5.10).

If I drive 1000 miles/month, EV cost will be $35-$40/month, depending on phantom/vampire losses. (2-3 kwhr day so far). Gas would have been ~ $150/month in my recently departed Subaru Outback. Doesn't nearly justify the purchase, but still satisfying.

 

[bowhunter]

Our PUD NW of Portland is $0.0719 per kWh 24/7.

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