Out of Spec: R1T Charging Curve, Cost and Analysis

[Canthoney]

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[Canthoney]

And here is the link to the data he used for the curve:

 

[Guy]

Very informative video, as usual. Seageo will be happy!

 

[aAlpine]

Welp, we can see now why Rivian kept quoting that 20 min charging speed.

Since I wanted a road trip vehicle, I'm quite happy to have my order delayed until the hopefully next generation of hardware or software.

 

[Trandall]

I'm fine with this. It's possible to drive 400 miles (450 theoretically) with only one 20 minute stop. I would stop once for at least 20 minutes anyway when driving that far. Only about once a year do I drive more than 350 miles in a day that would require multiple charge stops. I believe Rivian will improve their battery preconditioning so that charging will be able to stay between 170kw -200 kw up to 57%. They may also allow a bit more KW on the taper between 57%- 80%.
I think Kyle statement of "not industry leading but still pretty good" summed it up well. After all it's just not feasible to be the best at everything.

 

[Forager]

Wow, $.10/kWh…

*cries into $.18/kWh electric bill*

 

[SANZC02]

Wow, $.10/kWh…

*cries into $.18/kWh electric bill*

This will make you happier, this is SCE winter rates, summer rates are worse. Once I get my powerwall to use for prime rates, I’ll do the TOU-D-Prime to get non-prime rates down to 22 cents. ?

 

[Forager]

That is the most complicated rate schedule I’ve ever seen.

 

[Engi_Nerd]

1) I really appreciate how Kyle can offer coverage that is so much better than the mainstream outlets, which still have no idea how to fully evaluate EVs.

2) It's crazy to me that manufacturers can sell these vehicles without publishing complete, ideal DCFC curves. This "twenty minutes" thing is a joke.

3) $60 to DCFC is no joke!

 

[SANZC02]

That is the most complicated rate schedule I’ve ever seen.

Yes it is crazy. Good news is I have a 6.29 KW solar system that currently generates more than I use each month, will be close when I get the Rivian.

 

[electruck]

2) It's crazy to me that manufacturers can sell these vehicles without publishing complete, ideal DCFC curves. This "twenty minutes" thing is a joke.

Give it time. I suspect in a few years they'll be publishing charge curves and the mainstream auto media will be comparing EV charging curves the way they do hp and tq curves today (and once again, area under the curve is still what matters). The manufacturers just haven't latched onto this as a marketing opportunity quite yet. Everyone is still hung up on 0-60 bragging rights (probably because this is still most relatable to the first time EV buyer).

 

[Davethadog]

Wow, $.10/kWh…

*cries into $.18/kWh electric bill*

That’s 18 cents for 2.2 miles. It’s 70 cents a mile on a similarly capable gas truck. Not that it’s super efficient but still…

 

[Sdvictor]

This will make you happier, this is SCE winter rates, summer rates are worse. Once I get my powerwall to use for prime rates, I’ll do the TOU-D-Prime to get non-prime rates down to 22 cents. ?

PG&E users are probably laugh-crying right now. They also gotta pay for some burnt down stuff and dead people due to negligence via their electricity bills, because God forbid shareholders bearing any burden on that.

 

[Ikypoo]

New to EV’s here. So… does this mean the charging speeds will be even lower if it’s 110 degrees out here in AZ? How much can I expect to lose?

 

[Forager]

That’s 18 cents for 2.2 miles. It’s 70 cents a mile on a similarly capable gas truck. Not that it’s super efficient but still…

Similarly capable can mean many different things. My 13 year old truck is 22¢ a mile based on today’s gasoline price. The ICE F150 I’d replace it with would be 17.6¢ a mile, and have a 6.5’ bed. For my needs that’s more capable and cheaper ?

The Raptor gets 18mpg highway, so that’s 25¢ a mile at $4.49 and 19¢ at a more reasonable $3.49/gallon. Not sure where 70¢ is coming from.

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