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Just discussed in another thread, apparently the manual has a "non-recommendation"The Owner’s Manual seems to come up empty for this, which is unusual.
Interesting, that section is not in the manual I had downloaded earlier. I guess it’s still a living document.Just discussed in another thread, apparently the manual has a "non-recommendation"
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...-our-rivian-test-out-of-spec.3966/post-112792
https://www.wsp.wa.gov/driver/vehicle-equipment-requirements/Interesting, that section is not in the manual I had downloaded earlier. I guess it’s still a living document.
That “no chains on AT 20s” is kind of a non-starter, and they really need a better answer there (“raise your ride height” or something). Tire chains are a staple of Pacific Northwest winter travel and often non-negotiable if you want to go over the pass.
Now I don’t feel quite as silly about posting the link to that AutoSock product which I never used. It seems like their claim regarding state approval was legit!
Snow socks are helpful for adding traction to your Miata on summer racing slicks, but are kind of garbage on normal winter tires. Putting them on the ATs would be a huge traction downgrade and they’d get swiftly destroyed.Now I don’t feel quite as silly about posting the link to that AutoSock product which I never used. It seems like their claim regarding state approval was legit!
That may be, but if Washington is like California where a driver may be required to show that you have in your possession snow traction devices for your vehicle at a checkpoint or even install the devices at a checkpoint then these should allow you to get past the checkpoint since they are approved by the state. To me, this is low-conflict insurance if an officer is being a stickler because he or she doesn’t want to have to explain to the person behind me why I got a pass.Snow socks are helpful for adding traction to your Miata on summer racing slicks, but are kind of garbage on normal winter tires. Putting them on the ATs would be a huge traction downgrade and they’d get swiftly destroyed.
Raising the ride height won't necessarily help. It would depend on what the chains were likely to rub on.Interesting, that section is not in the manual I had downloaded earlier. I guess it’s still a living document.
That “no chains on AT 20s” is kind of a non-starter, and they really need a better answer there (“raise your ride height” or something). Tire chains are a staple of Pacific Northwest winter travel and often non-negotiable if you want to go over the pass.
It depends on conditions, but sometimes you do. See “CHAINS REQUIRED ON ALL VEHICLES” athttps://wsdot.com/travel/real-time/mountainpasses/tiresandchains. Welcome to the land of “Cascade concrete” snowfall!surely you don’t (legally) need chains on tires that carry the severe service(mountain & snowflake) symbol, with all wheel drive?
From that link, 4WD vehicles under 10,000 lbs with M+S or mountain/snowflake tires are exempt from "Chains Required" signs as far as actually mounting the snow chains, but you are still required to have chains with you.It depends on conditions, but sometimes you do. See “CHAINS REQUIRED ON ALL VEHICLES” athttps://wsdot.com/travel/real-time/mountainpasses/tiresandchains. Welcome to the land of “Cascade concrete” snowfall!
the funny thing is, go over the bordsr to the same conditions in the southern interior of BC and…no chains on passenger vehicles. At all. Maybe 20 years ago. But not now. Winter tires required though.It depends on conditions, but sometimes you do. See “CHAINS REQUIRED ON ALL VEHICLES” athttps://wsdot.com/travel/real-time/mountainpasses/tiresandchains. Welcome to the land of “Cascade concrete” snowfall!
my understanding has been that they’ll close the road before declaring R3 conditions.@crashmtb in California, if you get conditions which warrant R3 then there are explicitly no exceptions, “Requirement 3 (R3): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles, no exceptions.”
From https://dot.ca.gov/travel/winter-driving-tips/chain-controls