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Just to add to the fine details here - The frunk OEM connector used in question is a Sumitomo 6185-5181 that uses Sumitomo 8240-0265 Female Terminals. The wire plugs (water seals) you need will depend on the gauge of wire you end up using, obviously. Getting the seal size right with the wire gauge + insulation thickness can be tricky - AWG is not dictated by insulation thickness, it is strictly wire gauge, so you can end up with some 14 or 16AWG wire that has really thick insulation that will actually not work well with these wire seals. Best to measure the wire you're actually using for this mod to make sure you get the correct wire seal - trying to stuff an undersized wire seal into the connector body is a brutal pain in the ass.

Also, I get my parts for this connector from ConnectorID.com because it's US-based and has fast shipping. Here's the parts I ordered for my last Frunk update:

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I ordered several different wire seal sizes because I had different projects to do - you don't need all of these parts if you're doing this modification, obviously.
  • The light blue seal is CID1307 and is for 18, 20 or 22AWG wire, max insulation 1.0-2.2mm
  • The blue seal is CIDJ012 and is a plug for unused connector ports
  • The purple seal is CID1299 and is for 14, 16 and 18AWG wire, max insulation 1.8-2.7mm
  • The green seal is CID1140 and is for 14, 16 and 18AWG wire, max insulation 2.0-3.0mm
  • There is also an orange wire seal available, part number CID1005 for 18 and 20AWG wire with a max insulation of 1.6-2.3mm
  • The female terminals (aka 'pins') you'll need are CID204-2.3-FS3 for the Sumitomo RS090 series connector. I doubt anyone wants to spend $218 on the crimper for these, so you'll probably just want to carefully hand-crimp the wires and add a very conservative amount of solder to ensure a good connection. WARNING: If you do add solder, you must make absolutely certain that you don't allow solder to wick into the terminal wireway at all, or the terminal is ruined and will need to be replaced.
  • The 12V socket I use is from Amazon, but it's a bear to install because it's threaded, and means you have to thread the nut onto the socket from inside the light cavity. It thoroughly sucks donkey ass trying to get it installed, but it looks great once it's in there. I get PTSD thinking about the amount of time I spent trying to use 1 finger to align the nut onto the socket and hold it in place while I turned the socket to tighten it. The reason I like this one is because the wires are injection molded into the socket body as opposed to a screw & nut that is exposed and could come loose. I cut off the inline fuse and the hoop terminals, obviously - the socket is already fused by the Rivian. Also note that this is one of those cases where the 14AWG wire has brutally thick insulation that won't play nice with the wire seals listed above, so you'll either have to strip off more than enough to allow entrance into the connector body (plus wire seal) and replace that extra thick insulation with a thinner waterproof heat shrink tubing - then slide the wire seal over that and stuff that into the connector housing.
Just installed and then read your item about fuse. I didn't remove mine, does that create an issue or is it OK to keep the fuse in place. Haven't out back together yet so can still "fix" if needed.
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Just installed and then read your item about fuse. I didn't remove mine, does that create an issue or is it OK to keep the fuse in place. Haven't out back together yet so can still "fix" if needed.
No, I don't think it necessarily creates a serious issue, but it does potentially mean that you'd have to remove the frunk to change that fuse if it blows for some reason. Also, it adds an additional point of concern related to waterproofness.
 

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I guess I will have to wait for someone to start to provide this retrofit, I really don't think I will be able to mess with the wiring.

Congratulations to all the brave souls in this thread!
 

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Thanks for the part numbers. I was slowly approaching similar conclusions when Googling found your post. Awesome.

https://www.connectorid.com/products/sumitomo-8240-0365 is sold out :-(

Quest has plenty them, but pricy because of $25 minimum order

What is the real difference between the 0365 and the 0363? Would the 0363 work?

The reason I ask is that

https://www.connectorid.com/products/cid2089b-2-3-21-direct-equivalent-to-sumitomo-6185-5181

Says

Associated Terminals

And the FS1 is an 0263
FS2 is an 0264 (but dead link)
and FS3 is 0265

Is it the thickness of the wire? FS3/0365 is AWG22, so maybe too thin? 7A (i.e. only 85 Watt) vs AWG14 at 15A (180W). Will the smaller connector not take the bigger wire, or will it just not be as good?
 
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Got mine done and posted in the other thread with new fog lights. Thanks for pics and info. Works great. The pins to use the current pe. Plus is great. I then felt a lot better tapping into new wire installed for backlight on fogs.

Using this type of plug and dremel was my biggest concern but worked out well.

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Just installed and then read your item about fuse. I didn't remove mine, does that create an issue or is it OK to keep the fuse in place. Haven't out back together yet so can still "fix" if needed.
If you take the frunk tub out (like OP describes), then the threading should be a bit easier, no? Or is it a bear even with the tub out?
 

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If you take the frunk tub out (like OP describes), then the threading should be a bit easier, no? Or is it a bear even with the tub out?
I did remove tub. The dual style like the op is Dremel only option, you have to make a good sized rectangle hole. You can get a single or possibly do 2 single tube ones if you don't want to cut on sides.
 

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For the life of me, I can't get that green clip out-does anybody have any tricks or tips....other than that I am ready to finish this...thanks in advance
 
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For the life of me, I can't get that green clip out-does anybody have any tricks or tips....other than that I am ready to finish this...thanks in advance
Try a paperclip with a small hook bent at the end.
 

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For the life of me, I can't get that green clip out-does anybody have any tricks or tips....other than that I am ready to finish this...thanks in advance
I was stuck there, too. Here is how I got it out. The metal piece is a paper clip.

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I did remove tub. The dual style like the op is Dremel only option, you have to make a good sized rectangle hole. You can get a single or possibly do 2 single tube ones if you don't want to cut on sides.
I figured out finally where your pain point was.
I think I'll place mine (single) outside the light box. There should be enough room, and with the socket you recommended it should be waterproof.

Pros:
  • looks clean
  • no need to open the light box
  • not sticking out into the storage area

Cons:
  • Needs careful placement, and careful tub install
  • Tight balance between getting too close to the metal sheet in the car (between the socket and the wall of the tub). I didn't plan for the ring and had to turn the socket as the ring was blocked by a tab. On the other hand, the ring is now held in place.
  • Some (most?) 12V plugs are very long and may hit the hood when closed.

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Get the right connector for your wire size



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Not proud, but I didn't want to splurge for a crimping tool.

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The tub has been re-installed, and everything lights up. And the trunk closes again (it doesn't close properly when tub/trim is missing)

Still need to put some trim back, but night has fallen... it can wait until tomorrow.


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I am using an extension cord that is a bit shorter than a regular 12V socket. Full length will not work.

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I figured out finally where your pain point was.
I think I'll place mine (single) outside the light box. There should be enough room, and with the socket you recommended it should be waterproof.

Pros:
  • looks clean
  • no need to open the light box
  • not sticking out into the storage area

Cons:
  • Needs careful placement, and careful tub install
  • Tight balance between getting too close to the metal sheet in the car (between the socket and the wall of the tub). I didn't plan for the ring and had to turn the socket as the ring was blocked by a tab. On the other hand, the ring is now held in place.
  • Some (most?) 12V plugs are very long and may hit the hood when closed.

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Get the right connector for your wire size



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Not proud, but I didn't want to splurge for a crimping tool.

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Great work. Your decision to stay outside box for the barrel style made that a lot easier to install. If you plan to do much more crimping work in future Amazon has the tool pretty cheap and they work great
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