Software Update 2023.50 -- Scheduled battery preconditioning & other useful improvements!

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They clearly had this update for more than the few minutes that it has been publically available.

Are they an employee? Or just getting special access for being a youtuber?

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[Dark-Fx]

Checked to see if either of mine had an update and gained knowledge that a window wasn't closed in our R1S. It's been snowing/raining all day. Glad Rivian gave us this because it wouldn't have gotten noticed today at all otherwise. Argh. Probably ignored a notification about a window being open because it wasn't specific enough and wasn't a vehicle I had just driven.

(Still waiting for .50)

 

[jerseyff]

They clearly had this update for more than the few minutes that it has been publically available.

Are they an employee? Or just getting special access for being a youtuber?

...or do we believe everything being said?

 

[Marchin_MTB]

Just got the notification - will wait until tonight

 

[Jared2]

Anyone with an S able to update?

 

[Rainman]

Updated about 14 hours ago and so far I have zero battery drain. The first early indicator is good as I have always had some vampire drain over night on my R1T.

 

[DTown3011]

Here is my only question that’s not immediately clear - it SEEMS that scheduled preconditioning preconditions both the cabin AND the battery. What I’d like to know is whether cabin preconditioning from the app also preconditions the battery, like Tesla? I always assumed turning on the cabin temps via the app only affected the climate but seems like this update now might include the battery? It’s not immediately clear to me what is the case?

 

[WorldComposting]

My last 5 suv were Range Rovers. They didn't have an EV when I put my deposit down in 2019 on a Rivian. I love the R1s it's just a bit on the harsh side. An would love a heated front glass again, and maybe something to deal with the ice build up on the lights. Hopeful but we will see, I may go back to the Range Rover EV when they pull it off.

I really wanted a Range Rover but couldn't justify the low MPG and cost it would take. Saying that I would want the heated front glass as an option. I sat in my friend's RR and I could see the ribbon going through the glass in his LR4. I'm sure I would get used to it but my eyes kept focusing on it when driving.

I bought it because it looked like a electrified RR and had the room I was looking for. Wanted air suspension because I had it on a Jeep Grand Cherokee years ago and loved it. My XC90 didn't have air suspension and was impossible to get on the East Coast unless I did a special order. I was just hoping it would be a much more luxurious ride but it's just not. The update did fix it but all I can really handle is AP and soft settings otherwise it's just a frustrating on choppy roads. I just had a R1T loaner and I actually thought it drove worse which surprised me with the wheelbase length. My buddy has a nice Yukon Denali and when he drives I'm like man I should just get this because of the ride quality.

I'll probably stick it out because I have other vehicles but I wouldn't trust it on long trips and have been burned in the past. I don't have the time or patience with a family to play navigation games and having to factor in a bazillion calculations to get somewhere and hope I don't get stranded. Public charging is a complete joke at this point and extremely unreliable. Hoping the NACS makes a difference but everything is in it's infancy and will take a long time to sort out. I'm just glad that I hardly have to use public charging to really feel that pain.

60 miles is wild in terms of range but could be cool for local driving like you mentioned.

I get what you say about long trips. I did a 1,000 mile round trip with my Dad up to the Adirondacks and the charging really added a lot of time to the trip. R1S did great and I thought it was really comfortable. Went up again after Christmas with the family and my wife refused to take the R1S because she doesn't like how it rides (too bouncy) even when in AP. She was also worried about charging although I had things mapped out it isn't easy and won't be until we can use the Tesla network hopefully at full speed of 250kw as the Magic Dock maxed out at 150kw when I tested it.

Very weird on the R1T as mine after the updates a while back rides like a Cadillac, way too plush. Really must be variation from vehicle to vehicle. My family prefers the floaty ride but I like feeling the road.

I don't think this is weird due to the air suspension but I find my R1S drives differently nearly every time I drive it. Sometimes AP feels very smooth and other times it is a bit choppy. I have my vehicle in kneel mode so I think when it airs up can make a difference. Sometimes it will air up while leaving my house then at the first stoplight I come to it will change it again.

 

[md2023]

The big one is being able to do it using shore power while plugged in. For some reason the current behavior when warming the cabin is to use the battery until it drops X% below the set point before it starts charging again.



Preconditioning the cabin should work manually without using a schedule, but I doubt the battery warming will work that way. But I could easily be wrong. Warming the battery also takes quite awhile, so it wouldn't surprise me if they restricted that to a scheduled departure so the R1 can figure out when it needs to start based on the battery temp and estimated departure.

Seems like a great update and particularly helpful for those who would like to pre-condition while plugged in according to their schedule. Likewise, I am not sure I completely understand exactly how it works on demand and not plugged in (lots of questions). Especially when going skiing and not near a charger. Will this help efficiency? Is it any different from warming up the interior, seat, etc. while not plugged in? Or is this specific to while plugged in, based on scheduling and drawing from external power as opposed to the battery?

 

[Captain JB]

I use snow mode around town in Socal and it is a nice compromise to reduce the regen to a comfortable amount. JB

 

[SoCal Rob]

See the previous 10+ posts. 50.1 actually added some quite useful features that were not in 50.0. It isn't just a "whoops, we found something wrong with 50.0"

Maybe there is some confusion about release numbers? I’m pretty sure that the 2023.50.1 update is a bug fix after Rivian started testing 2023.50.0. The 2023.50.0 update, on the other hand, includes many features not present in the last release, 2023.46.0, as stated in the first post of this thread:
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...conditioning-other-useful-improvements.22471/

 

[DTown3011]

Seems like a great update and particularly helpful for those who would like to pre-condition while plugged in according to their schedule. Likewise, I am not sure I completely understand exactly how it works on demand and not plugged in (lots of questions). Especially when going skiing and not near a charger. Will this help efficiency? Is it any different from warming up the interior, seat, etc. while not plugged in? Or is this specific to while plugged in, based on scheduling and drawing from external power as opposed to the battery?

have the same questions.
Here is my only question that’s not immediately clear - it SEEMS that scheduled preconditioning preconditions both the cabin AND the battery. What I’d like to know is whether cabin preconditioning from the app also preconditions the battery, like Tesla? I always assumed turning on the cabin temps via the app only affected the climate but seems like this update now might include the battery? It’s not immediately clear to me what is the case?

 

[zefram47]

Seems like a great update and particularly helpful for those who would like to pre-condition while plugged in according to their schedule. Likewise, I am not sure I completely understand exactly how it works on demand and not plugged in (lots of questions). Especially when going skiing and not near a charger. Will this help efficiency? Is it any different from warming up the interior, seat, etc. while not plugged in? Or is this specific to while plugged in, based on scheduling and drawing from external power as opposed to the battery?

have the same questions.
Here is my only question that’s not immediately clear - it SEEMS that scheduled preconditioning preconditions both the cabin AND the battery. What I’d like to know is whether cabin preconditioning from the app also preconditions the battery, like Tesla? I always assumed turning on the cabin temps via the app only affected the climate but seems like this update now might include the battery? It’s not immediately clear to me what is the case?

It's going to do the same thing as hitting the climate button in the app today, just on a schedule if yours is predictable. It will definitely be preconditioning the battery. I hit mine manually this morning about 15 min before going out to the truck and one of the motors was in the orange when I started rolling...so it was already preconditioning the battery before I got in. I want to say this is new behavior as I've not noticed it before, but Rivian never mentioned it for 2023.46, so who knows. I'm still waiting to get 2023.50. You can and have been able to precondition on battery alone, without being plugged in...this update just allows you to use shore power even outside of charging schedule limits to minimize impact to range while doing so. Because it will precondition the battery, it ought to increase driving efficiency (even though it'll still be pulling energy from the grid to warm the battery). Basically it's the old six of one half-dozen the other kinda situation. If you don't need the range, then it won't really make any difference in a net-energy sense...but you will start your drive with more regen available and a warm cabin as well.

 

[md2023]

It's going to do the same thing as hitting the climate button in the app today, just on a schedule if yours is predictable. It will definitely be preconditioning the battery. I hit mine manually this morning about 15 min before going out to the truck and one of the motors was in the orange when I started rolling...so it was already preconditioning the battery before I got in. I want to say this is new behavior as I've not noticed it before, but Rivian never mentioned it for 2023.46, so who knows. I'm still waiting to get 2023.50. You can and have been able to precondition on battery alone, without being plugged in...this update just allows you to use shore power even outside of charging schedule limits to minimize impact to range while doing so. Because it will precondition the battery, it ought to increase driving efficiency (even though it'll still be pulling energy from the grid to warm the battery). Basically it's the old six of one half-dozen the other kinda situation. If you don't need the range, then it won't really make any difference in a net-energy sense...but you will start your drive with more regen available and a warm cabin as well.

Thanks. Then I suppose the question is about what is more efficient (and/or at what driving distance is one approach more efficient) for maximizing range when you can't charge/plug in. Should I turn on the climate ahead of time or simply warm up the battery by driving?

 

[zefram47]

Thanks. Then I suppose the question is about what is more efficient (and/or at what driving distance is one approach more efficient) for maximizing range when you can't charge/plug in. Should I turn on the climate ahead of time or simply warm up the battery by driving?

If it's all coming out of the battery anyway, I'd just wait until you drive and deal with a cold cabin for a couple minutes. At least when you're already moving the motors are already generating some heat and you're not just running them inefficiently without moving the vehicle to warm the battery.

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