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Edited to correct pricing of the Tesla. Actually $130,000 if you get equivalent 22 inch wheels and select the 7 seat option.
Now that we have the details about the Rivian SUV, only fair to compare it to the only other SUV that makes sense to compare to.
But really, the Rivian R1S is in a class of its own, being the ONLY off-road capable SUV on the market. Sure, there is the Audi E-tron, Jaguar I-Pace and Mercedes is coming out with one too. With Rivian's price increase, was worried that it would struggle. But now, being able to really compare it. The Audi & Jaguar are priced lower by roughly $10,000, but both only offer in the 220 mile range in terms of range. Both are smaller SUV's with only two rows of seating. The battery size alone is enough to account for a $10,000 variance.
The Tesla doesn't really compare, but it's the only other Electric SUV with three rows of seating. I guess the Model Y is, but the quality of a Model Y is like comparing a Yugo to a Mercedes. Doesn't remotely compare to the Rivian or Model X. Having experienced both, Tesla and the Rivian, the Rivian is far more comparable in quality to the Model S/X offerings than it is to the much cheaper build Model 3/Y.
The Tesla is similar in length, but narrower.
Both have air suspensions, but the Rivian's is far more adjustable.
The Tesla tech is miles ahead of where the Rivian is currently at.
Tesla's charging network is a huge plus.
Tesla has a slight range advantage at 329 miles for the Long Range version.
Rivian has far superior "frunk" space and usability with the auto open-close feature vs Tesla's delicate Frunk that you have to carefully close with two hands in the right spot so you don't bend the hood.
Rivian's tail gate feature is a nice plus as well.
Tesla has the Falcon Wing Doors. A plus for some, a deterrent for others. I went with the Model S specifically because the thought of waiting for those doors every time I need to quickly grab something from the back seat was a huge turn off. Still are.
The Rivian feels richer inside than a Tesla.
The Rivian has cooled seats which the Tesla doesn't offer. (Edit, I stand corrected) apparently the revised version of the Tesla interior does, I lost interest in the Tesla when they revised the interior of the S&X)
The Rivian accelerates 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. Tesla Long Range does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds.
The Rivian at least offers a compact spare tire. Tesla offers roadside assistance. Great if you don't mind waiting and if you're within their coverage area. Sucks badly if you're not.
Rivian has the air compressor.
Rivian has 110 power outlets.
Rivian has a built-in flash light.
Rivian has a camp speaker.
Tesla does have a glove box.
Tesla does have a usable storage console.
Rivian has a blinker stalk.
Rivian has a horn button
Rivian has a shifter stalk.
Rivian has wiper controls on the stalk.
The last four all have to be controlled by the screen in the Tesla or tiny buttons on the steering wheel.......errr, that yoke thing.
Oh yeah, Rivian gives you a full steering wheel. Tesla cheaped out by cutting off the top half of their steering wheel!! LOL
Those are my bullet points.
The Rivian, at today's pricing with typical options is $95,000.
The Tesla, at today's pricing, without adding FSD and for the cheaper long range version is $130,000. If you want to beat the Rivian in acceleration, for another $18,000, you can get the bigger motor in the Tesla. That's exactly all you get for $18,000 as nothing else is included for that $18,000 besides quicker acceleration.
For those that think the Model Y is comparable. The Model Y performance is 3.5 0-60, $70,000 and you can only get 5 seats at 303 miles of range. Have to downgrade to the Long Range Version if you want 7 seats. 0-60 then skyrockets to 4.8 seconds. But, then you have to pony up $5,000 to upgrade the wheels and get the third row. So the slower long range version then goes up to $71,000. It's overall, much smaller, MUCH narrower than the Rivian or X. Compared to the Rivian or Model X, feels like a bucket of bolts. Much less sound-proofing. Interior has ZERO "Luxury". As bare minimum as you can get. I had a Model 3 for 2 months and hated it. Everyone that got in it, said "There's nothing in here!" You lose the driver info screen behind the steering wheel. They do at least give you a full steering wheel. It has virtually identical range to the Rivian. You lose the Falcon Wing Doors and the Frunk is pretty much useless. Model Y has stiff coil springs (no air suspension). Again, the battery size variance alone warrants the extra money for the Rivian. The quality level, clearly varies, noting that Tesla themselves charge $50,000 more for the Model X versus the Model Y, because it's a cheaply produced vehicle with many cut corners. Compared to an X, it feels cheap and feels far smaller.
The above, is based on personal experience having owned versions of each of these vehicles. Build quality of the Rivian is much higher class and more S/X like by a mile.
When I start to itemize everything out, unless you're someone that does a lot of road tripping where the Tesla charging network is miles ahead and someone that buys their cars to watch videos and play video games, the Rivian seems to offer SO much more, even at the 20% higher than original pricing, when compared to the only other EV SUV with competitive range.
Now that we have the details about the Rivian SUV, only fair to compare it to the only other SUV that makes sense to compare to.
But really, the Rivian R1S is in a class of its own, being the ONLY off-road capable SUV on the market. Sure, there is the Audi E-tron, Jaguar I-Pace and Mercedes is coming out with one too. With Rivian's price increase, was worried that it would struggle. But now, being able to really compare it. The Audi & Jaguar are priced lower by roughly $10,000, but both only offer in the 220 mile range in terms of range. Both are smaller SUV's with only two rows of seating. The battery size alone is enough to account for a $10,000 variance.
The Tesla doesn't really compare, but it's the only other Electric SUV with three rows of seating. I guess the Model Y is, but the quality of a Model Y is like comparing a Yugo to a Mercedes. Doesn't remotely compare to the Rivian or Model X. Having experienced both, Tesla and the Rivian, the Rivian is far more comparable in quality to the Model S/X offerings than it is to the much cheaper build Model 3/Y.
The Tesla is similar in length, but narrower.
Both have air suspensions, but the Rivian's is far more adjustable.
The Tesla tech is miles ahead of where the Rivian is currently at.
Tesla's charging network is a huge plus.
Tesla has a slight range advantage at 329 miles for the Long Range version.
Rivian has far superior "frunk" space and usability with the auto open-close feature vs Tesla's delicate Frunk that you have to carefully close with two hands in the right spot so you don't bend the hood.
Rivian's tail gate feature is a nice plus as well.
Tesla has the Falcon Wing Doors. A plus for some, a deterrent for others. I went with the Model S specifically because the thought of waiting for those doors every time I need to quickly grab something from the back seat was a huge turn off. Still are.
The Rivian feels richer inside than a Tesla.
The Rivian has cooled seats which the Tesla doesn't offer. (Edit, I stand corrected) apparently the revised version of the Tesla interior does, I lost interest in the Tesla when they revised the interior of the S&X)
The Rivian accelerates 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. Tesla Long Range does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds.
The Rivian at least offers a compact spare tire. Tesla offers roadside assistance. Great if you don't mind waiting and if you're within their coverage area. Sucks badly if you're not.
Rivian has the air compressor.
Rivian has 110 power outlets.
Rivian has a built-in flash light.
Rivian has a camp speaker.
Tesla does have a glove box.
Tesla does have a usable storage console.
Rivian has a blinker stalk.
Rivian has a horn button
Rivian has a shifter stalk.
Rivian has wiper controls on the stalk.
The last four all have to be controlled by the screen in the Tesla or tiny buttons on the steering wheel.......errr, that yoke thing.
Oh yeah, Rivian gives you a full steering wheel. Tesla cheaped out by cutting off the top half of their steering wheel!! LOL
Those are my bullet points.
The Rivian, at today's pricing with typical options is $95,000.
The Tesla, at today's pricing, without adding FSD and for the cheaper long range version is $130,000. If you want to beat the Rivian in acceleration, for another $18,000, you can get the bigger motor in the Tesla. That's exactly all you get for $18,000 as nothing else is included for that $18,000 besides quicker acceleration.
For those that think the Model Y is comparable. The Model Y performance is 3.5 0-60, $70,000 and you can only get 5 seats at 303 miles of range. Have to downgrade to the Long Range Version if you want 7 seats. 0-60 then skyrockets to 4.8 seconds. But, then you have to pony up $5,000 to upgrade the wheels and get the third row. So the slower long range version then goes up to $71,000. It's overall, much smaller, MUCH narrower than the Rivian or X. Compared to the Rivian or Model X, feels like a bucket of bolts. Much less sound-proofing. Interior has ZERO "Luxury". As bare minimum as you can get. I had a Model 3 for 2 months and hated it. Everyone that got in it, said "There's nothing in here!" You lose the driver info screen behind the steering wheel. They do at least give you a full steering wheel. It has virtually identical range to the Rivian. You lose the Falcon Wing Doors and the Frunk is pretty much useless. Model Y has stiff coil springs (no air suspension). Again, the battery size variance alone warrants the extra money for the Rivian. The quality level, clearly varies, noting that Tesla themselves charge $50,000 more for the Model X versus the Model Y, because it's a cheaply produced vehicle with many cut corners. Compared to an X, it feels cheap and feels far smaller.
The above, is based on personal experience having owned versions of each of these vehicles. Build quality of the Rivian is much higher class and more S/X like by a mile.
When I start to itemize everything out, unless you're someone that does a lot of road tripping where the Tesla charging network is miles ahead and someone that buys their cars to watch videos and play video games, the Rivian seems to offer SO much more, even at the 20% higher than original pricing, when compared to the only other EV SUV with competitive range.
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