PPF - your cost and type ?

[keamoro]

Exactly, and @twraps did a test of half the windshield. I have it on video, the ceramic side was dirtier than the play WPF side. He also had a conversation with someone at the wrap vendor or a chemical engineer or something, who said what you said. It's already fully sealed.

I did have to get my ceramic removed from the paint, the PPF was not sticking.

That's good information. If I get the full XPEL wrap, I'm skipping the ceramic coating!

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[SwampNut]

This is my truck, video time is keyed to the ceramic discussion.

 

[Jeremy3292]

Going to the top rated PPF and ceramic shop in my state, also an XPEL dealer by chance too.

$1,098 - entire front bumper/frontal area and headlights PPF, no hood or mirrors but I could add them for $1,699 total but don’t want to. Saving some $$$.

$399 - entire gloss black rear bumper PPF

$1,099 - XPEL fusion full car ceramic, 4 year warranty (all glass, paint, plastics, etc)

$199 - front side windows tint

 

[Qamera]

I'm a complete PPF newbie. I have driven a silver ID4 for 4 years, 70k miles, about 80% of which is on road trips of over 3k miles each. I don't have a single scratch anywhere on the car (at least that I can see), and it gets washed at least once every two weeks. I am, of course, a heavy user of bug and tar remover. And I've had to replace the windshield once because of a crack that came from a truck in front of me.

Am I missing something? Or am I just lucky?

 

[kelr316]

Anyone have any experience with this product? https://nanoproceramic.com/products/nanopro-liquid-ppf-lpf-accelerate™

 

[keamoro]

I'm a complete PPF newbie. I have driven a silver ID4 for 4 years, 70k miles, about 80% of which is on road trips of over 3k miles each. I don't have a single scratch anywhere on the car (at least that I can see), and it gets washed at least once every two weeks. I am, of course, a heavy user of bug and tar remover. And I've had to replace the windshield once because of a crack that came from a truck in front of me.

Am I missing something? Or am I just lucky?

Probably both. Also silver is very hard to see small tiny marks. If I had a silver car, I probably wouldn't get PPF.

 

[ahassab]

Im very new to this ppf discussion, but essentially why pay for a color upgrade like catalina cove if getting stealth pff. Cant you just just take the base silver color, and add any stealth pff, and save the 2K for color choice?

 

[keamoro]

Im very new to this ppf discussion, but essentially why pay for a color upgrade like catalina cove if getting stealth pff. Cant you just just take the base silver color, and add any stealth pff, and save the 2K for color choice?

OK, so PPF is normally clear or semi transparent (for stealth matte looks). The higher quality ones offer more clarity and sometimes better "shine" as it makes things more even, less orange peel, and all that. So essentially you keep the special car color underneath a transparent protective layer.

You *can* get a color changing PPF that is opaque as well. But I don't think it looks the same as a base paint + clear PPF, so it's up to you. Also, many don't get a full PPF wrap, just some of the more problematic areas (front, bumpers, rocker panels) so you save a lot of money just getting some of it done invisibly.

 

[rfkxyz]

If anyone gives this a try, please share impressions...?

https://globalhitechfilms.com/ppf/sunroof-heatshield

 

[SwampNut]

I'm a complete PPF newbie. I have driven a silver ID4 for 4 years, 70k miles, about 80% of which is on road trips of over 3k miles each. I don't have a single scratch anywhere on the car (at least that I can see), and it gets washed at least once every two weeks. I am, of course, a heavy user of bug and tar remover. And I've had to replace the windshield once because of a crack that came from a truck in front of me.

Am I missing something? Or am I just lucky?

No, PPF is a bizarre mythical obsession and worthless other than changing color.

 

[macb00kemdanno]

No, PPF is a bizarre mythical obsession and worthless other than changing color.

That’s my thought on the subject too. However, I plan on doing PPF on the top part of the rear bumper. I’ve heard that the area gets scratched up very quickly when you’re loading and unloading objects. I don’t understand the infatuation with shiny black plastic for high traffic areas.

As for PPF’ing the rest of the car, forget it.

 

[mkg3]

Interesting thread. I recall when R1 vehicles came out, many, many people on this forum were quick to PPF the vehicle. Now I read that for R2, not so much. In fact most not.

Wonder if the price of the vehicle has anything to do with how people feel about protecting their expenditure?

I have one vehicle PPF'd and ceramic coated with Xpel Ultimate+, and Xpel Fusion, and others without, including my R1S. I would do the R1S front facia, fenders, hood and the side mirror, if it was new/buying today. Its 3 yrs old and probably will leave us in another year to 18 months before the warranty is up (gen 1 quad has 60k miles and 5yrs).

PPF+ceramic coating do make a difference against small pits, scratches and ease of keeping it clean. That said, if there is a hard impact or deep scratch, it will probably cost more to repair as the PPF as to be removed, then reapplied on top of bodywork repair.

If you decide to not to do the PPF and just do ceramic coating, or do nothing, recommend increasing your drivie following distance by at least 50% as Rivian has a very flat and vertical front facia that catches EVERYTHING. I've managed to only get 2 very small, but noticeable upon a close up, scratches/pits in 44k miles.

 

[SwampNut]

Wonder if the price of the vehicle has anything to do with how people feel about protecting their expenditure?

Yeah, I’ve noticed more PPF on shitbox Altimas than on high end cars. Questionable mods do track much more with cheaper cars.

 

[R2D2TOO]

I plan to have a small amount of PPF done when I get my R2;
1) the flat front part
2) the rear bumper top
I dislike seeing edges of PPF in oddly random locations - like few inches of the leading edge of the hood. Not for me. The rear bumper application will have some, but I will live with that.

I will also get the windows tinted - all but the windshield and top glass.

 

[SwampNut]

I dislike seeing edges of PPF in oddly random locations

You can pay to have full wrap PPF done, mine is that way.

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