Hello IRS, Anybody Home?

[Polar]

Hope they paid you 8% on the $7,500

Yup, well interest not that much though. Which I also then got taxed on.

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[Rivdog]

Everyone at the IRS has been at their homes since the first month of covid as are many other Federal Employees. The lack of any one forcing them back to work has been amazingly foolish up til recently. I hear people grumbling that there going to quit now that their dog walking regimen and pickle ball schedule are being interrupted by work.

So ridiculously untrue, but I’m definitely not gonna change your mind - this response is for others who might see your false statements. The IRS offices have been open and staffed throughout the pandemic. They were actually one of the only offices in the Portland federal building that had in-person staff.

Now please continue with your tirade against us lazy and worthless federal employees who haven’t worked a day since 2020. We’ll continue thankfully serving you regardless, because that’s what we do.

 

[therealcmj]

If this is true it's a major issue.

This is bad take. If people are not doing their work that's an issue. Where they're doing their work does not matter as long as the work gets done.

The people who work for me are spread across the world and they're nearly all remote 100% of the time. My boss is remote, and an even greater share of the entire org under him (including me) is remote. His boss is remote and her org yada yada.

COVID showed us that a large fraction of white collar work can be done wherever, and that people don't need to be in an office 100% of the time in order to be productive. And RTO mandates have consistently been used by large companies as a tool to get people to quit instead of needing to do layoffs (which look bad in the press). And the fact that they also rile up people who have jobs that can't be done remotely is a bonus.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

This is bad take. If people are not doing their work that's an issue. Where they're doing their work does not matter as long as the work gets done.

The people who work for me are spread across the world and they're nearly all remote 100% of the time. My boss is remote, and an even greater share of the entire org under him (including me) is remote. His boss is remote and her org yada yada.

COVID showed us that a large fraction of white collar work can be done wherever, and that people don't need to be in an office 100% of the time in order to be productive. And RTO mandates have consistently been used by large companies as a tool to get people to quit instead of needing to do layoffs (which look bad in the press). And the fact that they also rile up people who have jobs that can't be done remotely is a bonus.

I do almost the entirety of my job remotely. I have also been in upper management for the past 15 years. There is a significant portion of people who will screw off at every opportunity. Remote work requires people who are self-starters and usually higher-paid, higher-skilled positions because people in those positions have already proven themselves to be self-starters. Those positions have always been remote, or have had the option regardless of COVID.

At least 50% of the total workforce requires direct supervision to perform their tasks effectively.

 

[therealcmj]

At least 50% of the total workforce requires direct supervision to perform their tasks effectively.

At least 60% of statistics are made up.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

At least 60% of statistics are made up.

In my personal observations being in management.

 

[therealcmj]

In my personal observations being in management.

I've already said that I'm in management as well. And that is not my experience at all.

I think you're telling us a lot more about yourself as a manager than you are about people in general or even about the people that work for you.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I've already said that I'm in management as well. And that is not my experience at all.

I think you're telling us a lot more about yourself as a manager than you are about people in general or even about the people that work for you.

Predictable. I guess not everyone can set a standard of excellence the way I do with my staff.

 

[therealcmj]

As I see it (and as I coach the managers who work for me to see it) a key part of a manager's or leader's job is to know how to motivate your people to want to do good work and then set them up to be able to do so. So that they then actually go and do good work. And all of my employees are motivated and do do (heh) excellent work. Without me or their line manager hovering over them all day long. Which gives us the time and ability to go do the other things managers need to do.

If you think 1/2 of all employees are lazy then I suspect you don't manage the same way I do.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[SSteveEV]

Just passed 11 months since the IRS got my amended return to collect my tax credit for 2022. I usually would go every month to the "where is my amended return" website and call the number they gave there. A rep would then tell me it's being reviewed in the international office because of something on my return (a small international investment I think). Now, they don't even give you a phone number to call, they refer you to their processing dashboard which is totally useless. Can I sue Elon Musk for a bad debt?

If it makes you feel better, I just wrote a $1300 check for penalties because the IRS hasn't processed an older return yet and thus thought there was an underpayment for a more recent return.
Have also been working on an estate return for 4+ years now... It's a mess.

 

[Polar]

Yikes - 15 months!

I filed mine in August 2023, via TurboTax for the amendment, and had a check in about 4 to 6 weeks.

Was your paper filing? OP, is yours paper filing?

Mine was an electronic filing.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

As I see it (and as I coach the managers who work for me to see it) a key part of a manager's or leader's job is to know how to motivate your people to want to do good work and then set them up to be able to do so. So that they then actually go and do good work. And all of my employees are motivated and do do (heh) excellent work. Without me or their line manager hovering over them all day long. Which gives us the time and ability to go do the other things managers need to do.

If you think 1/2 of all employees are lazy then I suspect you don't manage the same way I do.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The bottom line is my employees do better when the manager is around to support and guide them, your employees do better when you're not around. You're right, I suspect you don't manage the way I do.

 

[bufkey]

I've had more issues with IRS (their faults) on amending my 2022 filing for a different EV. First they rejected for invalid VIN (which is a valid VIN), then they rejected again for income limit (which isn't a requirement in 2022), then it's been 4 months they haven't provided any status after my last response.

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