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An Ioniq5 owner and a Livewire owner were unable to use the A2Z adapter for this purpose, so Tesla must verify that you have an approved vehicle when you plug in.
Do you know if the user tried to initiate the charge using the Tesla App? Or did they attempt Plug & Charge ?
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My understanding is that they used the Tesla app. Ioniq5 thread.
Thank you. If you attempt to initiate the charge using the Tesla app (by telling it you're a ford owner) with the a2z Tesla to CCS adapter, you will get an unauthorized vehicle error.

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Just checked on my Lightning. Due about June ā€˜24. Rivian may be similar if in production now.

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Thank you. If you attempt to initiate the charge using the Tesla app (by telling it you're a ford owner) with the a2z Tesla to CCS adapter, you will get an unauthorized vehicle error.

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They are likely checking the MAC address from the vehicle modem. Each manufacturer gets there own range of MAC addresses for the modems in the car. That is also probably how Rivian is blocking non-Rivians on their chargers. MAC addresses are used for the Autocharge+ on EVGO and are part of the DIN standard associated with CCS protocol.
 

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They are likely checking the MAC address from the vehicle modem. Each manufacturer gets there own range of MAC addresses for the modems in the car. That is also probably how Rivian is blocking non-Rivians on their chargers. MAC addresses are used for the Autocharge+ on EVGO and are part of the DIN standard associated with CCS protocol.
When will we get an adapter which spoofs MACs? That doesnā€™t seem like a very secure auth. mechanism. Needs a per-vehicle public/private key.
 

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$12.99 Monthly Membership is fairly pricey. Will be interesting to see how much of a discount.

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Apparently the Ford adapters are in high demand. Hopefully Rivian can get ours out sooner than August.
 

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Apparently the Ford adapters are in high demand. Hopefully Rivian can get ours out sooner than August.
Except that Tesla is the one making them for everyone to distribute.
 

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Except that Tesla is the one making them for everyone to distribute.
Here's hoping they have a plan to ramp production or we may be looking at 2025 for our adapter delivery date...
 

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A2Z are now shipping their second batch of adapters since I just got an email saying mineā€™s on itā€˜s way, shipping via UPS. So far I havenā€™t heard of anyone receiving a Lectron adapter.

And yeah, not sure how allocation is going to work on the Rivian end given Ford is backlogged on their adapters through August!
 

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A2Z are now shipping their second batch of adapters since I just got an email saying mineā€™s on itā€˜s way, shipping via UPS. So far I havenā€™t heard of anyone receiving a Lectron adapter.

And yeah, not sure how allocation is going to work on the Rivian end given Ford is backlogged on their adapters through August!
When did you order yours?
 

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That's cool! I have my app but can't seem to find where to order as you've done? Any direction would help! Thx!
Go to connected services in the FordPass app, that will take you to the order page.
 

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Go to connected services in the FordPass app, that will take you to the order page.
Oh, gotcha, Iā€™m going to wait for the one from Rivian for my R1S. I wonder if they are the same?
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