EV9 Details Revealed, 2023 release

[TexasBob]

Kia confirmed today that this will be on sale in the US second half of next year.

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[JerseyGreens]

Kia confirmed today that this will be on sale in the US second half of next year.

I had to wait 6 months to get my Telluride. They are being bullish with that timeframe. They may be on sale but I'd assume with very low delivery expectations.

 

[fromSf]

I would really take EV9 but tired of dealer markups. I had Ev6 first edition reservation but dealer wanted 5K+ so backed off.

I tried to buy EQS580 same story dealer wanted above MSRP so walked out, literally called every benz dealer in bay area no one wanted to sell at MSRP. They have cars on the lot but refusing to sell at MSRP. BMW dealers are willing to take orders for iX at MSRP but couldn't get past the iX kidney grill.

Until these traditional manufacturers get handle on dealer markups they will be losing decent amount of buyers. Unfortunately Rivian communication is as painful as dealer markups, have no clue when I will get my R1S-LE.

 

[camaroz1985]

Glad we picked up an ID.4 to hold us over until there are more 3 row options. This is the first viable option (other than the R1S), but my wife hates how it looks, assuming it will be like the concept.

 

[koersontap]

Glad we picked up an ID.4 to hold us over until there are more 3 row options. This is the first viable option (other than the R1S), but my wife hates how it looks, assuming it will be like the concept.

What about the Hyundai variant?

 

[camaroz1985]

What about the Hyundai variant?

She likes the shape of the concept probably the most of any EV she has seen (maybe tied with the concept images of the Volvo Embla). Just not expecting to see those until 2024 or 2025 at the soonest, so we traded in our Atlas while used values are still high (got $5k more than we paid for it 2 years ago). When the time comes I will put a reservation on a 3 row and we will trade in the ID.4. So far we really like it though. Maybe we will wait for an ID.6 here in the US or the ID.8.

 

[Gamma rays]

I would really take EV9 but tired of dealer markups. I had Ev6 first edition reservation but dealer wanted 5K+ so backed off.

I tried to buy EQS580 same story dealer wanted above MSRP so walked out, literally called every benz dealer in bay area no one wanted to sell at MSRP. They have cars on the lot but refusing to sell at MSRP. BMW dealers are willing to take orders for iX at MSRP but couldn't get past the iX kidney grill.

Until these traditional manufacturers get handle on dealer markups they will be losing decent amount of buyers. Unfortunately Rivian communication is as painful as dealer markups, have no clue when I will get my R1S-LE.

I personally have a hard enough time paying MSRP, let alone over it. When I take delivery of the R1S (whenever that may be), it will be the very first time I pay MSRP for any vehicle (I haven't bought many because I tend to keep my vehicles for a while).

I guess I won't even bother looking into Hyundai/Kia (or any traditional manufacturers for that matter) if the greedy dealers won't accept MSRP for a BEV.

GR

 

[SANZC02]

I personally have a hard enough time paying MSRP, let alone over it. When I take delivery of the R1S (whenever that may be), it will be the very first time I pay MSRP for any vehicle (I haven't bought many because I tend to keep my vehicles for a while).

I guess I won't even bother looking into Hyundai/Kia (or any traditional manufacturers) if the greedy dealers won't accept MSRP for a BEV.

GR

I guess you can actually keep your streak alive with the discount they gave us with March 3rd price rollback.

 

[Gamma rays]

I guess you can actually keep your streak alive with the discount they gave us with March 3rd price rollback.

Technically, it's still MSRP. Just "discounted" MSRP!

GR

 

[camaroz1985]

I personally have a hard enough time paying MSRP, let alone over it. When I take delivery of the R1S (whenever that may be), it will be the very first time I pay MSRP for any vehicle (I haven't bought many because I tend to keep my vehicles for a while).

I guess I won't even bother looking into Hyundai/Kia (or any traditional manufacturers for that matter) if the greedy dealers won't accept MSRP for a BEV.

GR

I have the same feelings on MSRP and dealers charging over. I was at a Kia dealer and asked about the EV6. The salesman told me they didn't have any now, but he could put me on a list for when one comes in. He said they were asking $5k over and they were some of the smallest markup around. I replied, well I would never pay $1 over, and walked out. I'm sure someone else will pay it, which is the sad time we live in, but it surely won't be me.

I guess the direct to consumer model has it's advantages, but also made me feel like I wasn't getting the best deal possible. Now with the price hike, I don't even blink at the price. Seems very calculated... (taking off my tinfoil hat now).

 

[Rob Stark]

Rivian doesn't have an MSRP. Rivian has a MP. There is no wholesale price therefore no different retail price. And it is not suggested.

It is no more greedy for dealers to demand a price over MSRP than it is for customers to demand a discount on MSRP when supply exceeds demand. MSRP is not MMRP. Manufacture's Maximum Retail Price.

When dealers were advertising $5k discount off for various models I didn't see anyone demanding to pay MSRP. Price movements in a free market move on both sides of the trade.

 

[Gator42]

Damm this looks good, hopefully the production model is as close as these concept pics shown https://www.kia.com/us/en/concept-vehicles/ev9

...problem for me is it looks too concept. Don't the makers always wreck the good things about the concept?

 

[Jagger027]

...problem for me is it looks too concept. Don't the makers always wreck the good things about the concept?

Lol infact they do

 

[Gator42]

Rivian doesn't have an MSRP. Rivian has a MP. There is no wholesale price therefore no different retail price. And it is not suggested.

It is no more greedy for dealers to demand a price over MSRP than it is for customers to demand a discount on MSRP when supply exceeds demand. MSRP is not MMRP. Manufacture's Maximum Retail Price.

When dealers were advertising $5k discount off for various models I didn't see anyone demanding to pay MSRP. Price movements in a free market move on both sides of the trade.

Yah yah yah...we all get that the 'S' in MSRP is for suggested. To the consumer who sees the manufacturer struggle with supply chain issues not of their making and sees the retailer charging significantly above what the manufacturer believes is an appropriate price (so appropriate they put it in their advertising), well, to the consumer, it reeks of gouging...

 

[koersontap]

...problem for me is it looks too concept. Don't the makers always wreck the good things about the concept?

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