Babbuino
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Puppy not sold separately. They come in the gear tunnel ... I hope Rivian has AC in there....How much for just the puppy?
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Puppy not sold separately. They come in the gear tunnel ... I hope Rivian has AC in there....How much for just the puppy?
They do not. Let's not have a repeat of the Laika incident.Puppy not sold separately. They come in the gear tunnel ... I hope Rivian has AC in there....
I’m just quoting someone’s post, just like you did mine, and responding. I don’t understand what your question is.You're just linking back to a post someone made on this forum?
If you sign such an agreement, who places the order? Who is allowed to contact the Rivian guide? Who gets the email updates and delivery windows? Who is actually contractually liable to pay Rivian for the vehicle? If the answer to all those is still the original holder, you’re basically talking about a situation where it ends up just being a private vehicle sale after the original holder goes through the whole process. Sure you can sign an agreement for that with a third party but it’s not a reservation swap or transfer.Nothing prevents anyone from selling their rights under their Pre-Order Agreement to a third party. Rivian has the choice to honor or not honor the assignment of the agreement to someone else. So, any buyer can technically purchase the rights to a Pre-Order Agreement, but the buyer runs the very strong risk that Rivian will no longer honor that agreement. And of course, the Pre-Order Agreement is written so that Rivian can choose not to sell you a vehicle for any reason at their discretion.
I have sent you 2 Bitcoin (sure hope you got it). I will take the second puppy (Rottie?) and expect the R1T in Blue, with black 20" wheels. Please throw in the Camp Kitchen too, since you are a nice guy. Oh yeah, If you can't deliver by Aug 1, 2021 you can refund my purchase in cold hard cash ($122,883).I can sell my LE. Just let me know what color and wheels you want. I'll take the full payment using bitcoin, where you can add your address.
I'll even send it to you with a box saying thank you for buying Rivian.
If you hurry, you'll even get a puppy. YES, I said a puppy!!! You can choose between these 2 beauties, if you send the payment before May. You can't beat this deal, so hurry and send your payment!!!
You can find me with this email: [email protected]
By the time deliveries roll around, he might just hold on to your BTC and send you the cash depending on its value ?I have sent you 2 Bitcoin (sure hope you got it). I will take the second puppy (Rottie?) and expect the R1T in Blue, with black 20" wheels. Please throw in the Camp Kitchen too, since you are a nice guy. Oh yeah, If you can't deliver by Aug 1, 2021 you can refund my purchase in cold hard cash ($122,883).
As long as I get $122,883 I don't really care. (This coming from a guy who passed on Bitcoin at $299 because it would never succeed). LOLBy the time deliveries roll around, he might just hold on to your BTC and send you the cash depending on its value ?
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just saying a person should probably not rely on a stranger's forum post, retrieved through a google search, as legal advice. The quote you posted is also technically false, but you shouldn't rely on my post as legal advice.I’m just quoting someone’s post, just like you did mine, and responding. I don’t understand what your question is.
I think you're hitting the real issue on the nose here. What "rights" does the Preorder Agreement really give a person? You have no obligation to purchase a vehicle; Rivian has no obligation to sell you a vehicle. Rivian has no obligation to provide you with contact to a "guide." Rivian has no obligation to deliver a vehicle to you at any date, or provide you email updates.If you sign such an agreement, who places the order? Who is allowed to contact the Rivian guide? Who gets the email updates and delivery windows? Who is actually contractually liable to pay Rivian for the vehicle? If the answer to all those is still the original holder, you’re basically talking about a situation where it ends up just being a private vehicle sale after the original holder goes through the whole process. Sure you can sign an agreement for that with a third party but it’s not a reservation swap or transfer.
Again, I'm not providing legal advice, but I think the Rivian Preorder agreement only really gives you three substantive things:1. No Obligations
Each Preorder you submit for a Vehicle acts as a deposit for a future purchase of the Vehicle. You are under no obligation to purchase a Vehicle from us, and we are under no obligation to supply you with a Vehicle.
These Terms do not constitute an agreement for the sale of a Vehicle and do not lock in pricing, a firm production slot, a firm delivery date, or specific Vehicle configuration. To complete the purchase or lease of a Vehicle, you will need to execute Rivian’s standard Order Agreement and Agreement to Purchase (“Final Sales Agreement”) which will include additional terms and conditions, including the final price sheet for the vehicle you ultimately select (“Your Selected Vehicle”). The Order Agreement and Final Sales Agreement may be made with another Rivian entity. Additional payment for Your Selected Vehicle, including taxes and other governmental fees, will be required at that time.
We may decline Preorders to avoid over-subscription or as we deem appropriate in our sole discretion. If your Preorder is declined, you will be notified and your Preorder payment will be refunded.
Out of curiosity, I chatted with Rivian CS about this. They confirmed pre-order reservations are not transferable or saleable. Sale will only be made to the person who's name and information were provided at the time of pre-order deposit.How do you know they cannot be swapped or sold
They won't. I've already changed the name associated with my pre-order...Not sure to what extent they'll actually monitor or enforce that, but that's their current stance.
But they also haven't accepted an actual order from the account.They won't. I've already changed the name associated with my pre-order...
I'm 100% sure they won't say a single word about it. I've changed the name, address, phone number, email, cc number... Everything.But they also haven't accepted an actual order from the account.
They may or may not balk when that time comes - or at the very least ask some questions.
They didn't say you can't go into your account and change the info. They said they won't honor your pre-order/reservation when it comes time to complete the sale. So until that time, we won't know if they stick to it.They won't. I've already changed the name associated with my pre-order...
I mean, sure, but that can be said for Any pre-order since these agreements are non-binding for either party.They didn't say you can't go into your account and change the info. They said they won't honor your pre-order/reservation when it comes time to complete the sale. So until that time, we won't know if they stick to it.
I've changed the name, address, phone number, email, cc number... Everything.
This implies you may have already sold it? If so, I hope it works out.I mean, sure, but that can be said for Any pre-order since these agreements are non-binding for either party.
And since CS changed the email address associated with the account for me (and asked zero questions) I think I'll be fine...
No, I didn't. It was a gift for me that was purchased as a surprise. I transferred it into my name, but they never asked.This implies you may have already sold it? If so, I hope it works out.