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Rivian has created its second spinoff company this year: an industrial AI and robotics venture called Mind Robotics.

The new effort will be focused around using “industrial AI to reshape how physical world businesses operate and leverage Rivian operations data as the foundation for a robotics data flywheel,” according to the company’s third-quarter shareholder letter published Tuesday.

That’s a mouthful of buzzwords, and Rivian declined to clarify beyond that explanation. On an investor call Tuesday, Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said his company realized it had the chance to “develop products and robotic solutions that allow us to run and operate our manufacturing plants more efficiently.” Scaringe will serve as chairman of the board of directors for Mind Robotics, according to a filing, and Rivian is a shareholder, he said on the call.

“As much as we’ve seen AI shift how we operate and run our businesses through the wide-ranging applications for LLMs, the potential for AI to really shift how we think about operating in the physical world is, in some ways, unimaginably large,” Scaringe said on the call. “So the creation of this company is ultimately the culmination of us coming to the view that we wanted to have direct control and direct influence over the design and development of advanced AI robotics that would be very focused on industrial applications.”

Mind Robotics has already raised a $115 million seed round, which was led by VC firm Eclipse. Jiten Behl, a partner at Eclipse who also used to work at Rivian, revealed the investment in a LinkedIn post after TechCrunch previously reported the firm’s involvement in an earlier version of this story.

The launch of Mind Robotics marks the second time this year that Rivian has created a new stand-alone company. In March, the company spun out its skunkworks micromobility division into a startup called Also Inc. That new company was funded in part by money from Eclipse, with additional funding from Greenoaks Capital.

It’s unclear if Rivian employees are moving over to Mind Robotics, like was the case with Also. A Rivian spokesperson declined to say. But the company hinted at the possibility in Tuesday’s letter.

“With our strong bench of technology talent and an innovation-driven culture, we have been able to identify additional areas of value to accelerate our mission on a wider scale while maintaining Rivian’s focus,” Scaringe wrote.

Robotics and industrial AI are hot areas for investment right now. There is a slew of humanoid robotics companies raising money and trying to ship products, including Tesla. General Motors is working on its own robotics and AI division, too.

Beyond Rivian’s announcement Tuesday, though, very little is known about what Mind Robotics will get up to. There is essentially no digital footprint for the company yet, save for the trademark application. That application is very broadly targeted and says Mind Robotics could use the trademark for everything from machinery, to vehicles, to “incubators for eggs.”
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Sitting on multiple boards and filling multiple roles in his own companies...

Pivoting from automotive to AI...

What's next, Rivians in space?
Hoverboards. You never noticed the logo on Marty's hoverboard in "Back to the Future"?
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Well it makes a little more sense than a bike company, but just barely. One is a terrible idea and the other is just bad.
 

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Well it makes a little more sense than a bike company, but just barely. One is a terrible idea and the other is just bad.
Disagree there.

There is significant IP in both to support another company. It's only bad if it steals capacity or talent from existing company that slows it down.
 

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Disagree there.

There is significant IP in both to support another company. It's only bad if it steals capacity or talent from existing company that slows it down.
In the famous words of Ron Swanson "never half-ass two things, whole-ass one thing". Now that 2 has become 3. For Rivian to be successful, all the focus should be on Rivian. A bike company with significant IP, come on.
 

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A bike company with significant IP, come on.
Rivian has the IP to leverage for the bike company, not the other way around.

As a shareholder, I'm all for diversification......again, so long as it doesn't come at the expense of the core.
 

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In the famous words of Ron Swanson "never half-ass two things, whole-ass one thing". Now that 2 has become 3. For Rivian to be successful, all the focus should be on Rivian. A bike company with significant IP, come on.
I have mixed thoughts about the bike company, but Rivian has done extensive work in manufacturing robotics and AI as part of their vehicle production vertical integration philosophy. It makes sense to leverage that IP as a separate business. Rivian has numerous patents for manufacturing technology. A few are below.

US-20250332715-A1 - MODULAR ROBOT CONTROL ARCHITECTURE
US-20250309486-A1- MULTI-LAYER STACK CURRENT COLLECTOR ASSEMBLY FOR BATTERY APPLICATIONS
US-20250276409-A1- SMART LASER WELDING
US-20250226472-A1- SYSTEMS AND METHODS FOR DISASSEMBLING A BATTERY MODULE
US-12227245-B2 - Object-shifting mechanism, control system for object-shifting mechanism, and methods of manufacturing and using the same
 

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a bit of me wonders if the real reason also was spun out is the potential risk of the ‘bikes’ being classed as mopeds rather than electronic bicycles. The lack of mechanical link between pedals and wheels is super interesting from a legal perspective. If nyc or another metro rules they are not bikes - then a huge amount of the value prop vanishes - and I’m sure there are folks gearing up to defend ‘their’ bike lanes from the also quad in particular.

time will tell for mind robotics (I’m not clear on what they are planning to make?) - but at first glance seems a more classical tx of ip and tech: gets a lot of opex and capex potentially off the books directly - and now owns a company making money on those loss centers, even if that company ends up only supplying Rivian it still looks better from a balance sheet perspective.
 

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Sitting on multiple boards and filling multiple roles in his own companies...

Pivoting from automotive to AI...

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Space in Rivians.
 

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In the famous words of Ron Swanson "never half-ass two things, whole-ass one thing". Now that 2 has become 3. For Rivian to be successful, all the focus should be on Rivian. A bike company with significant IP, come on.
To be clear, this is Rivian focusing on one thing.

Rivian had IP that built for their main business, but had other potential applications. They are spinning them out into independent companies instead of building new lines of business within Rivian.

Trying to run them under the Rivian umbrella would be your example of doing 3 things poorly.
 

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I wonder if most of this is just for the sake of employee retention. The very smart creative employees tend to want to start their own companies. This prevents them from leaving to create their own thing by giving them ownership of the new spin-off without having to leave the company. Later on, if that spin-off company is successful, Rivian still has a stake in it and retain value from it. Also, without the Rivian name, it'll have better optics when other automakers decide to use whatever product the new company makes.
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