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That's about 20% of the planned network.
 

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Current RAN chargers stats as of Q2 earnings report today:

780+ Rivian Adventure Network chargers
123 charging sites
37 states
65% of chargers are open to all EVs
Next up... maybe make pricing more competitive? especially where there is a Supercharge across the street @ lower per kWh cost? I get RAN is a smaller network with worse capitalization rate. But what a shame for Rivian to lose its own customers to Tesla.
 

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Next up... maybe make pricing more competitive? especially where there is a Supercharge across the street @ lower per kWh cost? I get RAN is a smaller network with worse capitalization rate. But what a shame for Rivian to lose its own customers to Tesla.
I will pay more, substantially more, to charge at a RAN.
 

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I will pay more, substantially more, to charge at a RAN.
I will pay more as well, but up to a point.

If I have access to Tesla membership pricing at ~$0.35/kWh and Rivian is charging me ~$0.55 across the street, I'm going to the Tesla station.
 

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I will pay more, substantially more, to charge at a RAN.
I don’t think about the electricity cost for a $100k vehicle.

At the Marin Century bicycle ride, there was an Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster there for viewing. It has 15 mpg fuel efficiency and premium octane fuel is recommended. The dealer said they don’t expect their owners of a $100k vehicle to be concerned about fuel economy.
 
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I don’t think about the electricity cost for a $100k vehicle.

At the Marin Century bicycle ride, there was an Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster there for viewing. It has 15 mpg fuel efficiency and premium octane fuel is recommended. The dealer said they don’t expect their owners of a $100k vehicle to be concerned about fuel economy.
And most don’t. There are actual studies showing the wealthy pollute more because their individual carbon footprint is greater than those with lesser means. They hold more real estate, consume more energy to heat/cool and power those properties. They buy and operate multiple cars for personal and business use. They also buy gas guzzling status symbols. And instead of flying in large commercial jets like everyone else they fly private/charter and fly more often.

And of course there are outliers who don’t trend with the majority. The point is most of them are not environmentally conscious. They live large simply because they can and aren’t motivated to be environmentally conscious.
 
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Just for comparison:

2024 Q1 reported 470 RAN chargers and 77 locations. So Rivian added 310 chargers and 46 new locations in the last 16 months. Just under 3 new locations per month.

2024 Q1 Tesla was 57,579 chargers and 6,249 locations. 2025 Q1 Tesla is at 67,316 chargers and 7,131 locations. So Tesla added 9,737 chargers and 882 new locations in 12 months. 73 new locations per month. So Tesla is adding more chargers in 1 month, than Rivian is in 2 years.
 

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I'd pay extra just not to deal with the hassle of trying to find either an end spot at a Tesla station or taking up two charging spots if I'm not on the end.
Not as big of a deal as many make it out to be. I have no problems taking up two spots when I have to. I’m as much a paying customer as anyone else arriving. And Tesla itself advise its NACS Partner patrons that they may take up no more than two spots. Any Tesla owner who has a problem with it can take it to Tesla. They chose to open sites that were only designed for Tesla cars. Their genius CEO chose to halt and then slow pace of updating to V4 dispensers (which have longer cables). Not my problem. Nor yours.

And while some of you are willing to pay more to not do business with Tesla, you aren’t everyone. There is another thread/post just days ago describing an empty RAN and multiple Rivians at Supercharger across the road.

If Rivian can’t retain its own customers (within their own ecosystem of services), Rivian has a business problem it should correct. They don’t necessarily need to undercut Tesla. They just need to be on par, so that despite being higher, no Rivian owners would consider giving Tesla their business.
 
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Next up... maybe make pricing more competitive? especially where there is a Supercharge across the street @ lower per kWh cost? I get RAN is a smaller network with worse capitalization rate. But what a shame for Rivian to lose its own customers to Tesla.
Completely agree. Pricing for Rivian owners should be on par with Tesla for Teslas or Tesla subscribers. It is often not even as good as Tesla non-member pricing, and I therefore rarely use RAN chargers.
 

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I will pay more, substantially more, to charge at a RAN.
I do the same, even in my non-Rivian vehicles to charge at RANs. Tesla put no thought into enabling other manufacturer's vehicles. A requirement Rivian seems to be adhering to is putting in their gen 1.5 stations with much longer cables to make charge port position not an issue. No reason Tesla couldn't have done this too, except... ?
 

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Just for comparison:

2024 Q1 reported 470 RAN chargers and 77 locations. So Rivian added 310 chargers and 46 new locations in the last 16 months. Just under 3 new locations per month.

2024 Q1 Tesla was 57,579 chargers and 6,249 locations. 2025 Q1 Tesla is at 67,316 chargers and 7,131 locations. So Tesla added 9,737 chargers and 882 new locations in 12 months. 73 new locations per month. So Tesla is adding more chargers in 1 month, than Rivian is in 2 years.
"Just for comparison":
  • Tesla grew its network by ONLY about 17% worldwide (>half their network is outside the US).
  • At the same time Rivian grew its network by more than 50% in the US.
So, what point is it you're trying to make?
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