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I don't know what harder to believe, the 2.4 with the higher rolling resistance Nitto's or the laughable 1.8 with the Rivian engineered OEM Pirelli's, especially in Conserve mode. People have said they get 2.2 with those in AP!
2.2 on the Pirelli OEM AT in AP? Man, if that was what I got, I would have gone back to those... I think you're thinking on the highway tires... Or I may just have had a bad batch of tires...
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My tests of the OEM 20" Pirellis near sea level at ~55F:
60-65-70-75 MPH in AP:
2.2 / 2.1 / 1.9 / 1.7 MPK

Adjusted to ~70F:
2.4 / 2.3 / 2.1 / 1.9 MPK

Explained as follows:
2.6 MPK - [SPEED OVER 60]/20
At 70 mph that's 2.1 MPK (2.6-0.5)
At 80 mph that's 1.6 MPK (2.6-1.0)

Speed and temp are the big players when it comes to average efficiency...
60 MPH in 70F is around 2.5 MPK
But 75 MPH in 45F is around 1.75 MPK, a big difference...
 

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2.2 on the Pirelli OEM AT in AP? Man, if that was what I got, I would have gone back to those... I think you're thinking on the highway tires... Or I may just have had a bad batch of tires...
Rivian R1T R1S 20" Nitto Recon Grappler AT tires 25% more efficient than Pirelli OEM AT! The holy grail! IMG_4417

Iā€™m at 2.24 for 12,000 miles 100% AP mode. I live in NH and have had the vehicle 1 year (so majority cold driving). Mostly short distance drives but I floor it all the time and do 75-80 on the highway.
OEM AT 20s. The noise is now unbearable so I need to switch tires.
These seem promising. That is a wild gain in efficiency claim. But iā€™d be happy with equal efficiency as OEM so I might try them out.
 
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My tests of the OEM 20" Pirellis near sea level at ~55F:
60-65-70-75 MPH in AP:
2.2 / 2.1 / 1.9 / 1.7 MPK

Adjusted to ~70F:
2.4 / 2.3 / 2.1 / 1.9 MPK

Explained as follows:
2.6 MPK - [SPEED OVER 60]/20
At 70 mph that's 2.1 MPK (2.6-0.5)
At 80 mph that's 1.6 MPK (2.6-1.0)

Speed and temp are the big players when it comes to average efficiency...
60 MPH in 70F is around 2.5 MPK
But 75 MPH in 45F is around 1.75 MPK, a big difference...
Those calcs net about the right numbers... or close enough
IMG_4417.jpeg

Iā€™m at 2.24 for 12,000 miles 100% AP mode. I live in NH and have had the vehicle 1 year (so majority cold driving). Mostly short distance drives but I floor it all the time and do 75-80 on the highway.
OEM AT 20s. The noise is now unbearable so I need to switch tires.
These seem promising. That is a wild gain in efficiency claim. But iā€™d be happy with equal efficiency as OEM so I might try them out.
Wow - those are great numbers for the OEM ATs - I don't know how to explain it other than I need to offload the truck from all the stuff in the bed, fronk, and tunnel lol
 

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Itā€™s worth trying, we could see how load affects thingsā€¦(this is actually a great way to measure rolling resistance since aero effects = rolling distance @58 mphā€¦so maybe 58 mph test with weight and then without might highlight how weight change impacts MPK for particular tire).
 

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My tests of the OEM 20" Pirellis near sea level at ~55F:
60-65-70-75 MPH in AP:
2.2 / 2.1 / 1.9 / 1.7 MPK

Adjusted to ~70F:
2.4 / 2.3 / 2.1 / 1.9 MPK

Explained as follows:
2.6 MPK - [SPEED OVER 60]/20
At 70 mph that's 2.1 MPK (2.6-0.5)
At 80 mph that's 1.6 MPK (2.6-1.0)

Speed and temp are the big players when it comes to average efficiency...
60 MPH in 70F is around 2.5 MPK
But 75 MPH in 45F is around 1.75 MPK, a big difference...
I am at sea level 85F with OEM tires and I will get 2 in the highway at about 72mph, your numbers would be more optimistic than what I get but not by a lot
 

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2.2 on the Pirelli OEM AT in AP? Man, if that was what I got, I would have gone back to those... I think you're thinking on the highway tires... Or I may just have had a bad batch of tires...
Yeah, AFAIK almost everyone is getting 2.2 on the 20" OEM in AP. My lifetime is 2.2 over 20k miles, some conserve (and some RTT, etc.), but 2.25 over the past 7k miles with no conserve at all. That's why I have trouble with your numbers - you say 1.85 with the OEM, and a 25% improvement with the Nitto. If your driving style/conditions/etc. are such that your efficiency is that bad with the OEMs, I don't know how much I can trust your numbers with the Nitto.

As Mulder would say ... "I want to believe".
 

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Yeah, AFAIK almost everyone is getting 2.2 on the 20" OEM in AP. My lifetime is 2.2 over 20k miles, some conserve (and some RTT, etc.), but 2.25 over the past 7k miles with no conserve at all. That's why I have trouble with your numbers - you say 1.85 with the OEM, and a 25% improvement with the Nitto. If your driving style/conditions/etc. are such that your efficiency is that bad with the OEMs, I don't know how much I can trust your numbers with the Nitto.

As Mulder would say ... "I want to believe".
Iā€™ve gotten 2.1 with the Nittoā€™s in conserve and looks like Iā€™m at 1.86 in AP. That tracks IMO and Iā€™m running the 33ā€ tires but Iā€™ve always had a thirsty truck. OP video didnā€™t show 2.4 in conserveā€¦ ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ
 

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Probably a very silly question, but how much does using Driver+ affect range? I can't imagine it draws that much energy.
I would guess very little. The cameras are watching regardless of you driving or Driver+ doing the driving. Only difference is who is providing the steering and throttle inputs. If anything, Driver+ might be marginally more efficient since it can hold a speed more consistently than the human foot (which is tied to an organic brain that is always looking to get a dopamine fix).
 

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If anything, Driver+ might be marginally more efficient since it can hold a speed more consistently than the human foot
Highway Assist doesn't hold speed any more consistently than Adaptive Cruise Control. But Highway Assist DOES seem to adjust the steering frequently and far more often than I prefer - I refer to this as "micro-steering" whereas when steering on my own I tend to hold the wheel in one position for a long time unless I'm drifting. So I think HA might be slightly *less* efficient because it adjusts the wheel more often, but it would be by such a small amount that I don't think it would be measurable in normal driving.
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