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Last week I rented a 32’ travel trailer for a week long vacation with my daughters. We picked up the camper in Joplin, MO and pulled it a short distance to Noel, MO to float the Elk. Next we drove west, mostly on Route 66, to Keystone Lake just west of Tulsa. Then we drove the rest of the way down Route 66 to the Oklahoma City area were we stayed the final few nights of our trip to see family. The last morning we left early from OKC and drove back to Joplin, on I-44 the entire way.

All in all we pulled the camper about 500 miles, stopped to charge with the camper 6 or 7 times. We had an efficiency in the range of 0.65 to 1.1 mi/kWh. The average efficiency was probably around 0.8. I never had to disconnect the trailer to charge, which was helped by driving during the week and/or early morning. And importantly I didn’t impede anyone in the parking lots by not disconnecting.
  • Driving from the Kansas City area down to Joplin to pick up the camper, I drove 70-75 and was getting 2.3 to 2.6 mi/kWh on 21s without the aero covers. I sprayed the wheels in Hyperdip, which has a rubbery surface texture that may impact the aero performance of the wheels
  • The drive to Noel, MO was about 45 miles of 4 lane divided and 2 lane country roads, mostly at 65mph. I was getting between 0.8 to 1.1 mi/kWh
  • The drive from Noel, MO to west of Tulsa was all on two lane roads with speeds between 55-65 mph. One issue was that part of this stretch happened to be driving straight into a strong wind. I saw efficiency between 0.65 and 1.1 mi/kWh
  • I charged at each of the campgrounds were we stayed, using the adjacent campsite’s 14-50 receptacle. I wish I would have had a 14-50 extension cord so I didn’t have to use another campsite’s power pedestal. I felt bad about parking in another campsite to charge (even if it wasn’t being used and most of the campground was empty)
  • The drive back from OKC to Joplin was done all at once, on I-44. I stayed between 65 and 70mph, going slower when traffic allowed but speeding up as needed for safety. I saw between 0.7 and 0.8 mi/kWh on this stretch. I had to charge three times.
  • I am surprised at how much acceleration the truck has, even going 65mph while pulling the camper. I was driving through Tulsa and had to get over quickly to merge. I accelerated and genuinely surprised myself at how fast I picked up speed
  • The trailer moved the truck around a bit, but didn’t feel significantly different than towing a similar camper with my F-150 Supercrew Ecoboost
  • I never weighed the trailer but it’s supposed to have a dry weight of 6,200 pounds. I would guess at least an additional 1,000 pounds of stuff in the camper (it was well stocked) plus our clothes and groceries
  • I used ABRP with an assumed efficiency of 0.7 mi/kWh for planning purposes. I added several waypoints on each segment of the trip to ensure that the battery usage assumed by ABRP at certain points coincided with what the truck was reporting. Without exception it was spot-on
  • I could not use the new integrated ABRP due to not being able to change the default efficiency numbers
  • Would I do this again? Yes, absolutely. Planning is key, but I went into this knowing that my range would suffer. There was some risk that chargers would be down. I relied heavily on reports in PlugShare. That helped me avoid a few charging stops that had issues.
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Nice write-up.

Was there a primary charging provider that you utilized in that part of the country? EA? Chargepoint?
What kind of charging rates were you finding? Hopefully in the 150 + range - I imagine any 50KW chargers would be painful having to stop that frequently..
 

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Great write-up, thank you. We have a 7400# Airstream that we plan to tow.

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Thank you for the helpful information. Overall, about how much longer did it take to make the trip because of charging stops?

I am thinking about buying a 28ft Airstream, and I very curious how practical and comfortable towing with my R1T would be. (Wife hates bouncy tows.)
 

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This is about USD $0.40 per mile. How does it compare to gasoline or diesel truck pulling the same weight? Seems kind of expensive.
 

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Nice write-up.

Was there a primary charging provider that you utilized in that part of the country? EA? Chargepoint?
What kind of charging rates were you finding? Hopefully in the 150 + range - I imagine any 50KW chargers would be painful having to stop that frequently..
In Oklahoma Francis Energy is prevalent. I used them for most of the charging, hitting EA stations a few times as well. I experienced a wide variety of charging rates - from 50 to 150+. I had to charge at 50kW at one stop because that's all they had. The great thing about pulling a camper though is that you can go make lunch and relax in your own travel lounge!
 
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Thank you for the helpful information. Overall, about how much longer did it take to make the trip because of charging stops?

I am thinking about buying a 28ft Airstream, and I very curious how practical and comfortable towing with my R1T would be. (Wife hates bouncy tows.)
The only time I felt really slowed down by pulling with the R1T was the drive from OKC to Joplin, MO. I had to stop three times, charging about 30 minutes each time. Add in time to get off the highway, navigate to the charger, initiate charging, etc. and what should have been a 3.5 hour drive, took us (I'm guessing) about 6 hours.

I don't think regular towing with the R1T is "practical" for the average, non-retired, long weekend camping trip type of person. But it's definitely doable if you know what to expect. I found it fun to plot out the course, plan the charging stops, monitor my consumption levels and compare the real world to the theoretical. But then again, I also love Excel so...

As far as "comfortable", I didn't notice a huge difference between towing with my previous super crew F-150 and towing with the R1T. It was a bit bouncy. I don't know if there's anyway around that unless you upgrade to a HD long wheelbase truck. @moosetags how did pulling with your R1T (I believe you only pulled a short distance?) compare to pulling with your diesel rig in terms of comfort?
 
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This is about USD $0.40 per mile. How does it compare to gasoline or diesel truck pulling the same weight? Seems kind of expensive.
If I were pulling the same camper with my previous Ecoboost F150, I would have been doing 8-9mpg. Doing the quick math, that's about the same if gas were $3.50 per gallon.
 

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"I don't know if there's anyway around that unless you upgrade to a HD long wheelbase truck. @moosetags how did pulling with your R1T (I believe you only pulled a short distance?) compare to pulling with your diesel rig in terms of comfort?"

The Airstream pulled just as well with our R1T as it does with the 3t4 ton Silverado Duramax. It feels about the same.

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Thanks for post. Great reference. I just picked up my trailer last Friday and I saw 0.8mi per kwhr. I have the same trailer but three feet shorter (Imagine 2400). From previous post, videos I was expecting 0.9 to 1, and this provides some comfort. I thought my truck for some reason wasn’t as efficient as others. I should note that I have the 20” wheel and I was climbing from 2200 feet to 4000 feet. My experience was not that positive. There was only one charger in a 180 mi trip and I could not make it home without assistance. A friend had to meet me 30 miles away from home to tow the trailer the rest of the way. I got home with 12 miles of range. I don’t mind charging more often. The issue is that the infrastructure is not robust enough for towing. I won’t have an issue once Tesla opens up the supercharger network to Rivian.
 

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"I don't know if there's anyway around that unless you upgrade to a HD long wheelbase truck. @moosetags how did pulling with your R1T (I believe you only pulled a short distance?) compare to pulling with your diesel rig in terms of comfort?"

The Airstream pulled just as well with our R1T as it does with the 3t4 ton Silverado Duramax. It feels about the same.

Brian
We have towed with both. Biggest difference is visibility with the Rivian is much worse. The duramax is simply much larger and with the tow mirrors, I can easily check blind spots and reverse.
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