Opinion on 20" tires for R1T

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[ScoobieSteve]

I am struggling with this very same decision, but am hung between the Goodyear Territory that I am currently running and the Michelin Defender. Has anyone on here run both that could provide a comparison?? I have the Goodyear Territory and have been thrilled with them, but I am at about 20K miles on them and they are done (compared to 12,500K miles on the Scorpion due to conserve mode utilization when I first owned). They are quiet, efficient, and have a built-in profile to the Rivian software. I too went from 1.9-ish to 2.2 in efficiency....but they are QUIET, ride super well. I just wonder if the Michelin may have the same qualities but last longer? I have 80K miles on this R1T and am still in love!

 

[Judd]

I’m at the paralysis via analysis stage of tire shopping. I think I’ve come to the realization that I use my truck more for a commuter than something off road. I have a Super Duty for that. I’ve got GY Duratracs on it…tried the American made tire. I’ve not been happy, they are noisy and have a bubble in the sidewall they blamed on me (I’ve not hit anything).

So then I decided, I think I want the Michelin Platnium…until I read about all the kWh/mile hit. That lead me to the LTX…which looks like a HL tire.

So I think now I’m at Hankook Ion. Subject to change as the wind changes direction lol

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I’m at the paralysis via analysis stage of tire shopping. I think I’ve come to the realization that I use my truck more for a commuter than something off road. I have a Super Duty for that. I’ve got GY Duratracs on it…tried the American made tire. I’ve not been happy, they are noisy and have a bubble in the sidewall they blamed on me (I’ve not hit anything).

So then I decided, I think I want the Michelin Platnium…until I read about all the kWh/mile hit. That lead me to the LTX…which looks like a HL tire.

So I think now I’m at Hankook Ion. Subject to change as the wind changes direction lol

I’ll be blunt. Every single case of analysis paralysis so far are result of emotional attachment. Unwillingness to let go of wants, hindering progress to meet needs. And perpetually stuck in cycle of wats vs needs.

2 paths to get across the impasse:
1. Remove emotional attachment. Take cold hard look at data and define your objectives with brutal honesty. Then take decisive action to meet objective.
2. Or, give in to your desires. Do what feels good, accept consequences and don’t second guess. Just send it.

After all, it’s not like you’re stuck with the decision for life. There are volumes of repetitive posts on tires; in addition to tire manufacturers’ published stats and countless online reviews. No one should have trouble making their own decisions.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

We need an AI bot to auto-respond to threads like these (given there are at least 10 pages of Google results JUST for RivianForums members wanting to discuss 20" tires... That's just like my opinion, man...):

https://riviantrackr.com/rivian-tire-guide/

Every single forum/topic, man. Inevitable. Some just rather be told what to do. This is why AI is dangerous.

 

[Judd]

I’ll be blunt. Every single case of analysis paralysis so far are result of emotional attachment. Unwillingness to let go of wants, hindering progress to meet needs. And perpetually stuck in cycle of wats vs needs.

2 paths to get across the impasse:
1. Remove emotional attachment. Take cold hard look at data and define your objectives with brutal honesty. Then take decisive action to meet objective.
2. Or, give in to your desires. Do what feels good, accept consequences and don’t second guess. Just send it.

After all, it’s not like you’re stuck with the decision for life. There are volumes of repetitive posts on tires; in addition to tire manufacturers’ published stats and countless online reviews. No one should have trouble making their own decisions.

Thanks for not making me lie on a couch and don’t send me an invoice because I’m not paying it

Fully aware of where I stand on what I’m doing…

These posts are always interesting and I almost always read them…good to hear other perspectives, needs and wants.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Thanks for not making me lie on a couch and don’t send me an invoice because I’m not paying it

Fully aware of where I stand on what I’m doing…

These posts are always interesting and I almost always read them…good to hear other perspectives, needs and wants.

Conflating needs with wants is always where people get stuck. That tire that looks good/rugged and yield great efficiency too? It doesn't really exist. Michelin tried with Defender Platinum, but fell a bit short in applicable size... which is a LT275/65R20 weighing 4 lbs more than the factory Pirelli AT and cost just as much. Next closest thing is the Goodyear, but I wouldn't call it good/rugged looking when it's next to a proper AT tire. But for all reasons already mentioned, it's a solid value.

 

[SwampNut]

There's a huge thread about the tires I'm using, Nitto Grappler Recon in the 116 load range (lighter duty, still in spec). They have been much better than the stock tires by far. I have 22k miles on them now, with perfect wear, and plenty of life left. Very good off road, not aggressively loud on road.

 

[nvelazquez88]

I got the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Ascent in OEM 20" size from costco. only 150miles so far and its super quiet compared to oem. Mileage is TBD as its too early. the tire looks fantastic. very happy for now

I'm having this same experience over my first 100 miles or so, got them last Friday. So far super quiet and they are looking pretty efficient, though I suspect that the software is being a bit biased against me for choosing an aftermarket tire.

I went from OEM Pirelli to the new OEM Goodyear. And while I loved the Goodyear, they were close to bald after only 8,000 miles. That's not a typo, I had to swap them after eight thousand miles. I've yet to hit 25k miles on the truck and I'm on my 3rd set of tires, super fun.

For what its worth, I am getting my alignment adjusted next month. I've known it to be an issue over the last year or so, and Costco reported seeing that on the Goodyears that they removed for me.

Last anecdote...my truck sits in Kneel in my driveway. I generally backout rather quicky, before the truck has raised much, and am turning while I do so. The Bridgestone has scraped against the wheel well twice, and that had never happened with either previous tire. I suspect this has to do with the recent software adjustment to lower kneel mode. The original kneel was when I had the OEM Pirelli and the truck sat just a bit higher.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I'm having this same experience over my first 100 miles or so, got them last Friday. So far super quiet and they are looking pretty efficient, though I suspect that the software is being a bit biased against me for choosing an aftermarket tire.

I went from OEM Pirelli to the new OEM Goodyear. And while I loved the Goodyear, they were close to bald after only 8,000 miles. That's not a typo, I had to swap them after eight thousand miles. I've yet to hit 25k miles on the truck and I'm on my 3rd set of tires, super fun.

For what its worth, I am getting my alignment adjusted next month. I've known it to be an issue over the last year or so, and Costco reported seeing that on the Goodyears that they removed for me.

Last anecdote...my truck sits in Kneel in my driveway. I generally backout rather quicky, before the truck has raised much, and am turning while I do so. The Bridgestone has scraped against the wheel well twice, and that had never happened with either previous tire. I suspect this has to do with the recent software adjustment to lower kneel mode. The original kneel was when I had the OEM Pirelli and the truck sat just a bit higher.

If your UTQG 580 tires are dead at 8k miles, it's either your alignment or your use. You will kill another set. I've seen people report 20k and over 30k.

 

[SwampNut]

Last anecdote...my truck sits in Kneel in my driveway. I generally backout rather quicky, before the truck has raised much, and am turning while I do so. The Bridgestone has scraped against the wheel well twice, and that had never happened with either previous tire. I suspect this has to do with the recent software adjustment to lower kneel mode. The original kneel was when I had the OEM Pirelli and the truck sat just a bit higher.

My tires at a bit over 50% wear do this also.

 

[shamoo]

Reading your post, I'm not sure you need an AT at all. Your gravel/dirt roads don't need an all terrain tire. A normal road tire is fine. It seems 99% of your driving is going to be on pavement, so I'd suggest a more road worthy tire.

 

[Karma]

I just had the Bridgestone Duelers installed at Costco about 2 weeks ago. Saved $300 plus over the Pirellis. I got about 28k out of the Pirellis, could of hit 30k, but with the oil prices shooting up I figured it wouldn't hurt to change them out early before tire prices go up too.

One warning the Bridgestones were the worst tire I have ever driven in the first 250 miles, they wandered terribly on straights, and my energy use was worse by quite a bit. I came so close to returning them. However they drive great now, are almost silent, and energy efficiency is getting back to what it was with the Pirellis. I really like them, however to be honest I liked the Pirellis for most of their life until they got noisy.

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