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Not a lot of options for the 21" on the R1S. why would they bring it back after discontinuing it.what kind of tires r on it ? AT or AS?
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Not a lot of options for the 21" on the R1S. why would they bring it back after discontinuing it.what kind of tires r on it ? AT or AS?
$7500 from losing the tax credit + $5000 over expected = $12500 more than when deposit was placed. Not entirely Rivians fault of course, but it is what it is.You then said that the launch edition price was $12K higher than you expected. That math don't math...
Agreed. It won't be a Tesla killer. The LE seems to be a great value, but the rest of the pricing could be a bit disappointing depending on the paint color and option costs.R2 Launch Edition
$57,990 excluding $1,495 delivery
DEFINITY NOT A TESLA KILLER
R2 Standard (late 2027)
$45,000
THE PROMISED $45K R2 IS WELL OVER A YEAR AWAY. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT.
It's a smaller diameter tire with a lower load rating. There's quite a few options.Not a lot of options for the 21" on the R1S. why would they bring it back after discontinuing it.
The R1 has great towing capacity and is getting pretty affordable on the used market.4400 lbs tow rating makes me sad. So much for hoping to drag my camper around locally with it.
Narrower you mean? 21" is the diameter. Or do you mean the sidewall height?It's a smaller diameter tire with a lower load rating. There's quite a few options.
21" is the rim diameter. Tire diameter is 32". R1's tire for 21" rims is 33" diameter.Narrower you mean? 21" is the diameter. Or do you mean the sidewall height?
With that Launch Edition price it's going to be very difficult to hold out for a LIDAR model.It's no longer on the Arstechnica site but I had it cached in my RSS reader.
R2 Performance / Launch Edition
$57,990 excluding $1,495 delivery
87.9 kWh battery
330-mile range
29 mins (10 to 80 percent)
656 hp / 609 lb-ft
Matrix LED headlights
21" inch wheels
Heated/ventilated front seats, heated rear
185.9 inches long, 78.1 inches wide, 66.9 inches tall, 115.6-inch wheelbase
9.6 inches ground clearance
4,400 pounds towing
R2 Premium (late 2026)
$53,990
87.9 kWh battery pack
330-mile range
450 hp / 537 lb-ft
No semi-active suspension
20" inch wheels
Fewer drive modes than Performance model (no Rally, Soft Sand or Launch Mode)
R2 Single Motor RWD (next year)
$48,490
87.9 kWh battery pack
345 miles
350 hp / 355 lb-ft
19" inch wheels
All-black interior
Only heated front seats
Five speakers (instead of nine),
No all-terrain drive mode,
No drop-down rear glass window
R2 Standard (late 2027)
$45,000
Smaller than 87.9 kWh battery pack
265 miles
The article in full:
Between a certain car company's antics and the industrial chaos set off by COVID (and then compounded by Russia's invasion of Ukraine), it's easy to be cynical about production timelines. Yet when Rivian showed off a midsize electric vehicle in 2024 and said it would be available in the first half of this year, it meant it. Deliveries of the first R2 SUVs will begin this spring.
As a new automaker, Rivian often does things its own way, but with the R2 launch, it's following industry practice and starting with the superlative version first. That's the R2 Performance, which starts at $57,990 with the launch package (excluding a $1,495 delivery charge). You get quite a lot of electric SUV for that, however: up to 330 miles (531 km) from a single charge of the 87.9 kWh battery pack, with 656 hp (489 kW) and 609 lb-ft (825 Nm) from the dual motor powertrain. Fast charging takes 29 minutes from 10 to 80 percent.
AWD first
The Performance features semi-active suspension, a rear window that drops into the tailgate, an interior with birch accents, heating for the front and rear seats and ventilation for the former, a nine-speaker sound system, matrix LED headlights, and some other neat touches like the flashlight that lives in the side of the door, similar to how some cars hide an umbrella there.
You can add Autonomy+ (the automaker's partially automated driver assist), the tow package (4,400 lbs/1,995 kg), and some other colors as optional extras to the Performance trim (they're silver by default). The launch package includes a lifetime subscription to Autonomy+, the tow package, and another optional body color.
The R2 Premium will go on sale in late 2o26 for $53,990. It has the same 330-mile range and 87.9 kWh battery pack, but it generates just 450 hp (355 kW) and 537 lb-ft (728 Nm) from its dual-motor powertrain. The R2 Premium does without the semi-active suspension, arrives on 20-inch instead of 21-inch wheels, and features fewer drive modes, doing without rally, soft sand, and launch modes. Otherwise, it shares its specs with the faster, more expensive R2 Performance.
RWD in 2027
The single-motor R2s arrive next year, with the $48,490 R2 Standard that uses the same 87.9 kWh battery pack as the AWD R2s. Without a motor for the front axle, the RWD R2 goes a little further: 345 miles (555 km) on a single charge. The motor sends 350 hp ( kW) and 355 lb-ft to the rear axle. Standard R2s come with an all-black interior and only heat the front seats. The sound system has five speakers instead of nine, there's no all-terrain drive mode, it rides on 19-inch wheels, and the glass in the rear window doesn't drop down, so you'll want a roof rack for your surfboard.
In late 2027, an R2 Standard with a smaller battery enabling around 265 miles (426 km) will be available for $45,000. For now, we don't know much about that one other than its price.
The R2 SUV is attractive, sharing a lot of its looks with the larger three-row R1S, both inside and out. And it's a rather clever one, too; Volkswagen Group invested $5 billion in Rivian specifically to gain access to its software-defined vehicle technology and expertise.
An AI assistant will come to Rivian's in-house infotainment system in a future update, running locally via edge computing. (The company actually said the "R2 is outfitted with 200 sparse TOPS of edge AI compute dedicated to the in-cabin experience," but I don't like "compute" as a noun.) That processing power will also enable Rivian's Autonomy+. And since this is now Rivian's fourth product, we can be confident in its ability to deliver its regularly praised cadence of software updates.
I'm surprised that they still go for 21" However, I'm sure it is not 275/55/21 like the R1s and R1t Most likely 275/50/21 imo which has a little more selections. Should have gone to 20" though.Not a lot of options for the 21" on the R1S. why would they bring it back after discontinuing it.