Apple CarPlay coming to rival Tesla

[hudesigns]

If only Rivian worries less about cartoons and wildness life style, and get 100% behind people’s digital life. Less about seamless experience more about drivers real life experience! If you take care of drivers, car sale will take care of itself.

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[SwampNut]

If only Rivian worries less about cartoons and wildness life style

Another great point. I know four other Rivian owners, they want street vehicles, period. I'm the only one who does adventure stuff. It's cute and all, but I doubt that even 10% of Rivian owners actually care about that stuff.

OTOH, many people are posers and like to project a persona.

 

[therealcmj]

once you have linked your phone to the car why do you need apps like Spotify on the car?

you don’t. But more important is the other way around. If you use a third party music or podcast app on your phone or for books (including from your public library) you don’t have to use (mediocre) Bluetooth to play it in the car.

And if your like to order fast food you can do it from the big screen. Instead of on your phone while driving.

 

[madhat]

you don’t. But more important is the other way around. If you use a third party music or podcast app on your phone or for books (including from your public library you don’t have to use (mediocre) Bluetooth to play it in the car.

And if your like to order fast food you can do it from the big screen. Instead of on your phone while driving.

Hopefully they integrate it such that it doesn't degrade the get in and go current set up. Having to plug in my phone can go here even if it means lower quality audio:

Spoiler: PG website title: EataRichard.com

https://eatadick.company.site/products/Eat-a-Bag-of-Dicks-p343530226

Also, I don't want to have to have a CP/AA app to interface with my vehicle, and I certainly don't want that ugly CP/AA interface. See spoiler above if in question of my feelings on CP/AA being added to Rivians, unless it's a separate thing i don't have to use.
Our Cx5 has wired CP/AA and we don't like it one bit.

 

[M3_R2]

USA - IOS 58% -- Android 42%
Canada - IOS 60% -- Android 40%

More or less.

I'm in the minority being both in Canada and having avoided Apple all my life despite most around me having it.

As a Tesla owner, it's a bit of a slap in the face to only come out with CP. I like the idea of having improved 3rd party apps through AA/CP but I'm not about to switch phones. Perhaps they will alienate as many as they make happy with this move.

Not sure about CP but AA audio quality can vary depending on the phone and the vehicles head unit. I just prefer my audio apps native to the vehicle but I realize if your phone's app is a more eloquent implementation, how you could be a fan of CP/AA.

Though lossless files on a USB stick shouldn't be ignored as being the best if you really prioritize sound quality over functionality.

 

[M3_R2]

Tesla sales were the highest ever, globally in the last quarter. They are always using levers. CP is just another in a long list but it's a pretty significant one so no doubt they are forecasting a big dip ahead to finally try this one. It's not that important to me. Though speaking of levers, you will know they are getting desperate when they allow V2H from the rest of their fleet and not just the sillytruck.

Tesla's implementation of CP will be inside a window in their UI so won't be exposing vehicle-specific controls (navigation/FSD integration etc). Perhaps this will seem less alienating to the Android crowd (who's numbers are much higher in other parts of the world) and to those who don't like the general idea, period.

Here's hoping that if Rivian does something along these lines they include the Android crowd but personally, I'd be very OK if they just kept focused on developing their own UI and improving it.

The 2026 BMW iX3 will have both CP/AA. (not Carplay Ultra) Which I'm strangely cross-shopping with the R2. Slowly backing away from the Scout as I refine my preferences.

 

[hudesigns]

Don’t enable CP/AA in your car. Problem solved. It’s not mandatory. Let others who need it to have fun with it.

 

[Volabisi]

This is because Telsas are all old and undesirable now. Couple that with Elon being a lunatic and you have sales dropping like a stone. Yet another idiotic decision from Elmo and company, they spent the last 10 years talking about how great their software is, only to capitulate to CarPlay.

It's not their software that's responsible for their lagging sales; it's everything else about their cars. Their cheap-looking interiors without a driver screen, their dumb decisions for yokes and turn signal buttons, lack of an overhead camera, and stagnated designs are the major reason for their sales decline. Other companies that make more compelling vehicles have entered the EV space and pretty much all of them make better vehicles. Tesla's only strength was their software, so CarPlay isn't going to help.

I agree with Donald Stanfield, Tesla’s strengths were its software, charging network and the fact that they were the only player in EV during the early days. Fast forward to the present day, everyone makes compelling EVs that design and luxury wise blow Teslas out of the water. The Super Charger advantage is no longer relevant since it’s open to everyone. As for the software, I believe it will actually hurt Tesla because most people just get in their car, connect to Car Play and go about their way. This might make them ignor FSD which is Teslas golden goose.
It’s also important to remember that Rivian is currently where Tesla was in 2017 and is quickly catching up. The more Tesla innovates the better Rivian will be when they reach the same milestone.

 

[SwampNut]

The Super Charger advantage is no longer relevant since it’s open to everyone.

Not exactly, there are still limits with older stations. In some places, you can still be completely boned, particularly when trailering. Ask me how I know.

 

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[ARGi]

Rivian promised Messaging was coming, all year. It's November. Stop and just give us CP.

 

[ARGi]

Other way around Buck, Beedee Beedee.
Rivian is lagging, bee dee, because Wassym bee dee, sucks.

 

[Volabisi]

Not exactly, there are still limits with older stations. In some places, you can still be completely boned, particularly when trailering. Ask me how I know.

While this may be true, it has to affect less than 5% of EV drivers. And even if you were to be driving a Tesla to have the extra Supercharger advantage, you wouldn't be towing anything larger than a lawn mower with the Model X since Cyber Truck clearly is not selling as expected.

 

[sunydrm]

While this may be true, it has to affect less than 5% of EV drivers. And even if you were to be driving a Tesla to have the extra Supercharger advantage, you wouldn't be towing anything larger than a lawn mower with the Model X since Cyber Truck clearly is not selling as expected.

The access to tesla supercharger stations is only 60%. It's not just v2 stations. It is v3 and v3.5 stations as well

There is a big difference including some very large stations. For example at coachella music festival there are 4 tesla supercharger stations and non-tesla only have access to 1. It is an 8 stall station while the other three are 24, 24 and 46 stalls.

The 24 and 46 stall stations are V3

Because many non-tesla need 2 stalls to charge, they may never be able to charge as 1-stall gaps may open up which a tesla can snag. Now imagine at a 125K festival in california, how many people need to charge.

 

[VSG]

The access to tesla supercharger stations is only 60%. It's not just v2 stations. It is v3 and v3.5 stations as well

And some v4 as well.

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