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Hot take: Google Maps is not really much of an upgrade

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Been living with Google Maps for about a week, using it as often as I can for both trips I am familiar with as well as journeys to new places over new routes. So far my initial impression is that it has not yet shown itself to be meaningfully improved over MapBox for my uses.

The good:
- Much denser and richer POI data. I have not really had much use for this since I haven't yet encountered a situation where I would want to use it, but it's clearly better than what we had previously.
- Presumably better traffic data. GM rerouted me on my commute home last night, but traffic was so unusually heavy that I suspect MapBox would have figured it out, too. Not much personal experience with this, but given the much larger data set (GM includes Waze user data, too) it has to be better.

The bad:
- Routing does not seem much better, and in my anecdotal experience is actually worse. Over the past week Google Maps has:
- Directed me on a route that required an illegal turn.​
- Routed me around the two sides of a square path rather than the much more obviously direct route that cuts diagonally across, and is a larger road, to boot. I ended up overriding the nav and taking the direct route and there was no reason to have avoided it. It's done it more than once so it seems like their road weighting data is off in that area.​
- Speed limit data does not seem to be as accurate, at least in my area.
The ugly:
- The map colors are not as attractive and do not blend as well with the Rivian UI as MapBox did.
- It can't seem to draw curves. Turns in the road look like they are built out of adjoining straight sections. Cloverleafs look like dodecahedrons. Particularly noticeable when it zooms in to make a turn.
- The navigation path sometimes differs from the road outline (the blue line drifts off the side of the road outline below).
- Adjoining road sections sometimes do not line up, leaving little jagged edges or weird discontinuities in the road shape.
- I know this one is on Rivian and not Google, but the new larger directions box sometimes cuts off text or shapes. For example: state routes in my area are shown as numbers inside a pill shape, and the bottom of the pill outline is often cut off.
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Not so hot a take at all. I use Apple Carplay on my BMW and have found Google Maps has seem to be only getting worse over time. Several times it has made me get off the highway to get back on again...for no reason at all. It has sent on private roads, dirt roads, roads that don't exist, etc. I use it to account for traffic when I know where I'm going and have found most Google routes to be the least direct way to get anywhere, traffic included. I was in Disney last weekend and it sent me on a road for castmembers only and had an awkward episode trying to back out of a gated entrance with a line of cars behind me. Apparently "Google maps sent me this way" was not enough to be let in lol

While Mapbox wasn't perfect, compared to the current state of Google Maps, it really wasn't much worse. I suspect people's mileage may vary, but personally I'm just happy with the Google Maps aesthetic. Nav wise, its hit or miss for sure.
 

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Just wanted to share that GPS tracking on my R1S is noticeably smoother and more reliable now—definitely an improvement.

That said, I’m still struggling to find the alternative routes option, which I rely on all the time—especially living in the land of tolls. I often use it to decide whether a toll is worth it. Google Maps will sometimes suggest a toll just to save a minute, and I like having the ability to compare. The previous built-in maps were so bad that my R1S ended up in service twice, each for a full week. I wasn’t expecting perfection this time around, but I was hoping for a more consistent experience with what’s available in the app.

Overall, I’m glad Rivian decided to move away from trying to build their own mapping solution—it frees them up to focus on core software improvements. While I’m still using my phone for navigation, this is finally starting to feel like a usable system. Small steps in the right direction.
 

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My biggest complaint is why are the fonts so friggen huge?
 

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I agree. Local data is better, but I have always felt Google/ Waze directions were overrated. Not that Mapbox was good, but Google is a minor upgrade in that department IMO.
 

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I agree, I actually preferred the Rivian maps. Google maps have weird coloring everything is always green around me. I don't find it an upgrade at all. It's not a downgrade but I haven't noticed anything great about the new mapping.
 

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Been living with Google Maps for about a week, using it as often as I can for both trips I am familiar with as well as journeys to new places over new routes. So far my initial impression is that it has not yet shown itself to be meaningfully improved over MapBox for my uses.
Agreed!

I figured I was in the minority but I had no issues with the old maps and preferred the visuals on it. Google maps feels too cartoonish (larger fonts, zoom level too close, live traffic is overly pessimistic, etc)
 
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Overall, I’m glad Rivian decided to move away from trying to build their own mapping solution—it frees them up to focus on core software improvements.
They didn't - it was MapBox previously and now it's Google.
 

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hot take, why did rivian buy ABRP then did they completely abandon that to just use google maps, when by in large people might prefer waze....ugh
This is a really good point, especially considering how they have a competing product already. I've used it in my Silverado and it's pretty good.

Here is an overly long, rambly video about it:

 

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hot take, why did rivian buy ABRP then did they completely abandon that to just use google maps, when by in large people might prefer waze....ugh
ABRP's tech still backs the EV routing part. Could be why just changing the underlying map didn't actually change much for routing?
 

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I'm optimistic this will "get better" but wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be with the update. I use Waze all the time and the routes presented in that app do not match those from the new Google Maps in the Rivian UI. I thought that MapBox in it's "final" iteration had gotten a lot better, including tracking of the vehicle location on the map. GM seems to do that well, but the routes themselves aren't the best.
 

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Most of my travel is in and around cities and the old system's traffic was horrible. Seems much better now. Also Reroute is much better now. With the old system, if I ran into a closed bridge like I did yesterday, it would keep trying to make me turn around and go over the bridge. When I did a u turn at the closed bridge yesterday, it quickly rerouted me another way to my final destination that did not involve that bridge. I like it.
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