Photo: R2 body built w/ production dies! NACS charge port location = driver's side ?

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Whats the standard in China ?

This country has the highest amounts of light duty Ev's.

China has two receptacles in their charging ports. So do we, kinda.

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[Ostrichsak]

Whats the standard in Europe?

As a united group they have the second highest amount of light duty electric vehicles.

How are they surviving with out ncas?

It's not a debate worth having. It was already settled years ago. It's a net positive for consumers.

 

[SolartoEV]

It's not a debate worth having. It was already settled years ago. It's a net positive for consumers.

Have I debated anything? Arent we talking about facts?

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Interesting that some of the most adavanced ev's ( from china) and fastest charging vehicles ( Porsche and lucids) all developed with out nacs.

Umm... So, here's the obvious thing. That's because NACS was not a SAE standard then, when those cars were developed. And no one, including Rivian, wanted to be beholden to you know who. It is now. J3400. Look it up.

 

[SolartoEV]

Umm... So, here's the obvious thing. That's because NACS was not a SAE standard then, when those cars were developed. And no one, including to Rivian, wanted to be beholden to you know who.

What will cars from Europen countries develop their charge ports for when using them in Europe?

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

What will cars from Europen countries develop their charge ports for when using them in Europe?

Who knows. I don't live or drive there, so whatever they want.

 

[SolartoEV]

Who knows. I don't live or drive there, so whatever they want.

I know. I am laying it on pretty thick here.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I know. I am laying it on pretty thick here.

Just playing along

 

[CharonPDX]

The vast majority of non-Tesla vehicles and stations have CCS1 ports. There's still a significant portion of Tesla stations that will be incompatible with CCS based NACS vehicles until Tesla rebuilds them. I personally still don't see the point, and I'm probably in the minority of people who have charged using a non-Tesla NACS station to charge a non-Tesla vehicle. The adapter worked fine.

And when I bought my first EV (BMW i3,) CCS1 was by far in the minority (Electrify America didn't open their first station until later.) Most (non-Tesla) stations used CHAdeMO. I made that mistake my very first EV road trip, pulled into a station that had both CHAdeMO and CCS1 ports, to find the CCS1 cable had been vandalized. Had I checked PlugShare, I would have known to not try to rely on that station.

J3400 is now standardized, and is already showing up on non-Tesla stations. (Some EVgo, EVCS, and even Costco near me now have J3400 plugs, alongside CCS1 (and in some cases, also alongside CHAdeMO.)

Before Ford's announcement, I was firmly in camp"stop trying to make NACS happen, Tesla." But the rapidness with which basically every entity involved in EV charging agreed to switch to it - it's a foregone conclusion now, even if Tesla back out of their commitments to opening the Supercharger network (and withdraws the ability of currently-approved EVs (Ford, Rivian, GM, etc) to use the network.)

I had a Tesla. I preferred the use of that plug. Not by enough to really care, though. I used a J1772 adapter to charge my Tesla at home (since I already had J1772/CCS vehicles before getting the Tesla, so already had J1772 charging at home.)

I just want one plug everywhere. I didn't care which one. I figured "Tesla wasn't serious about opening up their connector, so no other companies will switch away from CCS1" but hey, turning it into SAE J3400 not under Tesla's control now means it's "reasonable" to switch to it.

 

[Shmoe]

Things have changed since then. I cannot elaborate or the board Admin will ban me.

SAE J3400 is an open standard.. not sure what you think the problem is.

 

[DuoRivians]

Whatever the plug, I still avoid Superchargers unless absolutely necessary.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

Everyone is still adopting NACS. It was approved by a regulatory board as SAE J3400. It’s no longer controlled by Tesla. This is how third-parties can make charging adapters and other charging stations can add J3400 plugs.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

Pay attention, the world has changed significantly since then

Again, NACS is no longer controlled by Tesla. It was approved by a regulatory board as SAE J3400. Third-parties can manufacture this plug. It is superior to CCS1 in many ways.

Just because one Tesla employee is an asshat doesn’t mean all 100,000+ employees are.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

SAE J3400 is an open standard.. not sure what you think the problem is.

(library whisper voice)
Pssst... the problem is invoking name of CEO of a particular company. Some people get triggered. Ok?

 

[Captblue]

So, back to the subject, where is the charge port? ? YW

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