Actually that's not all that surprising given that Rivian has referred to these as high content and low content production lines. Van assembly should be somewhat simpler thus faster.
Given the number of flats during the "reviews" I personally wouldn't go *light* off-roading in a vehicle without a proper spare and a patch kit. The AT tires supplied are simply not up to the task. Any tire with more rubber or thicker side wall will bring an un-spung weight penalty and impact miles.
I’m not sure it’s been mentioned but the bigger worry is going to be charger capacity and traffic. Once you start sharing a charger with another patron the speed for both of you is gonna get throttled…
My understanding is that isn't the case with EA.
I love you all dearly but you folks depressed about not making F1 speed level pit stops on your bi- weekly cross continent trips need to move closer to where you want to be
Seriously, when I watched out of spec on their long haul EV trip in the Porsche they don’t seem to be stopping more than an extra 10 minutes than I’d stop in my current ICE every 150-200 miles. If you can’t add an extra few minutes to your journey maybe this EV thing isn’t for you?
Ok, so how slow is too slow for you guys? A 50kw max?
I generally agree. One caveat to your analysis here is battery size. If the R1T managed the same C-rate as the egmp platform, you're talking about 1ess than 15 minutes for 20 to 80%, instead of 30+ minutes. Relative to battery size, with 400/450v, the R1 trucks are charging *much* slower than either the e-tron gt or the EV6. For example, if the R1T would hit 350kW thst would result in a peak C-rate of ~2.6. Which is much less than the hyundai/Kia, model 3/y, Taycan/e-tron GT. The Taycan charges faster at 70% SOC relative to its battery size than the R1 does at peak. which is to say the R1 seems to be very conservative with its charging curve.
Given my own experience off roading, I'm not surprised by the tire situation at all. It has been a very rare day where we've had a group of more 5 or more cars on a proper off-roading trail for a day without at least one of the cars losing a tire.... and this is mainly with vehicles running MT tires with thicker sidewalls than AT.
I agree. @80Billion, the near term upside has already been absorbed by those who got in early.Fellas stop hyperventilating abt possibility to get in on IPO and a substantial upside. Comparisons to Tesla at their IPO are ludicrous. A proposed $40B - $80B IPO valuation dwarfs Tesla's market cap at IPO and they were already shipping product for a yr. GM's market cap currently is $77B. My pre-order and eventually shipment is enough of a capital risk
Tesla let's you use their autopilot features with a monthly fee. And you can sign up and cancel it as often as you want. So if you want it for a long trip, you activate it for that month then cancel. It's not the best but it's close to what you're asking for. I'm assuming Rivian will allow the same
We do not know the split but we know the contract is for 10K a year for 10 years for 100K units so that should be their target build rate, may be a little more to catch up for the slower start.
I also heard that is no longer how Tesla is doing their newer chargers, certainly was true for the early super charger locations though.
