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So, I've mentioned before that we had an i4 M50 on order for my wife. We were able to pick it up yesterday, and I've put a hundred or so miles on it in the last day, driving around and running errands. I don't have the whole thing dialed in yet, but I have enough time behind the wheel to get a few impressions that I would like to share with everyone.

I will avoid comparing driving dynamics as comparing a pickup, and a small sport sedan is like comparing an apple and a sandstorm. I feel a few things can be compared as the steering feel. Surprisingly, I get better steering feedback from the R1 than I do the i4, but as far as on-road handling, the i4 beats the R1 by a significant margin. It's expected that the car's center of gravity is on the ground compared to the truck. My Rivian is sporty for a truck but no sports car. The BMW cannot do any truck things, so comparing these is more or less useless.

On to the the things that can be compared. I'm going to start with the interiors. The i4 has a wraparound display; it is pretty nice. I'd say the displays are a tie. The leather seats in my i4 are excellent, but the overall interior quality isn't as nice as my Rivian. The wood trim isn't as nice, and the vinyl isn't as nice as the Rivian's. Even with the quality seats, I give the interior an edge to Rivian.

The launch mode in the BMW is much more fun. When you first engage it, the car lurches slightly against the brakes, making you feel like you're about to take off. The pedal mapping in sport for the i4 is a little bit more direct than the Rivian, which makes the Bimmer feel faster than the Rivian even though it's technically slower. It also means sport mode is less comfortable to daily the car in than the Rivian's sport mode is, so it's a trade-off off and I like how the mapping is done on each vehicle for that vehicle. The reason is that overall, the Rivian is much more comfortable, so it would be a better daily, and the i4 would be a great car to get somewhere in a hurry or have fun on a back road. If I'm taking a car to the dragon, it will be the i4, but running errands will be the R1, except when going downtown or in cramped spaces, the i4's smaller size is an asset.

Stereo: I got the premium sound in the i4 and preferred the R1's system. The i4 doesn't seem to have the punch or clarity. I am reserving final judgment on this because I'm comparing satellite radio in the i4 to tidal in the Rivian, so I know the quality of the inputs is different.

Infotainment: I prefer the UX of the Rivian, but that could be that I spend so much time here and have been around since reasonably early on in Rivian's process so adding a feature at a time is much easier to learn than trying to figure the whole thing out at once. The i4 does have a lot of options the Rivian does not, such as being able to change the color of interior lighting, and I have a HUD. The HUD in the i4 is really nice and easy to see and you can change what is displayed there, and you can change the instrument cluster as well which is a feature I wish Rivian had. I know some of you would like the AA and CarPlay in the i4, but I can't use it anyway running GrapheneOs.

Noise: The i4 has the option for artificial engine noise. It's pretty accurately represented, but I turned it off almost immediately. I have grown to appreciate the silence of the EV at this point. Regarding outside noise, the BMW has zero wind noise, while the Rivian has a little. The Rivian has almost no tire and road noise, and the i4 has some. They are pretty close in noise, with Rivian getting an extremely slight edge to the quiet side because the tire noise is always there in the i4, but the wind noise isn't always there in the Rivian.

Paint: I haven't gotten the i4 to the detailer yet, but I have more orange peel on the i4 than I do on my Rivian currently, which is saying something as we got the upgraded custom paint, a 5K dollar option. It looks good, but I didn't think there would be as much peel. Hopefully, they applied it thicker than the base model color so my detailer can eliminate it.

Overall, they are different vehicles for different purposes, and I like them both. The Rivian makes a better daily and a better traveling car, but running around town, the i4 is fun to drive. I'm glad Rivian stands up well on the finishings and performance front. I am so happy we got rid of our ICE Audi. The i4 is a significant upgrade. The i4 is my wife's car, so this is moot, but if the vehicles were for me and I had to choose to get rid of one, I'd probably keep the Rivian. It's more comfortable by a pretty significant margin, and the gap in comfort between the two is more prominent in the Rivian's favor than the gap in fun to drive is in the i4's favor.

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It’s a nice looking car. Too bad you’ll never get to drive it again after today ?

I’m surprised to hear the interior and paint are better on the Rivian.
 
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It’s a nice looking car. Too bad you’ll never get to drive it again after today ?

I’m surprised to hear the interior and paint are better on the Rivian.
My wife and I prefer I drive when we go places, so I'll still be driving it plenty. The fit and finish of the BMW interior is perfect. The materials aren't as nice. The paint remains to be seen; I had my R1 at the detailer shortly after I got it. We will see what the i4 looks like when he finishes it. That will be more of a fair comparison.
 

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I considered buying an i4m50 as well because the Rivian was taking so long. I know that sounds like an odd matching but has to do with the cars I already have and the kids now driving. That's a gorgeous looking car. Congrats and you can't go wrong with the two at the top of my list, lol. BMW tends to be minimalistic in appearance with many features hidden away that get discovered.
 

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I was the first test driver of the initial i4m50 demo my dealer got last year. I’ve had a few BMWs, including my current road race car, and found the i4 to have all the great dynamics I expect from a BMW but without all those troublesome bits that fail or leak fluids. ? A couple of months later I took delivery of the R1T when I could have flipped it for $30k. The i4 was the only thing out there I considered trading for but you couldn’t get one anyway. Well…i would have taken a Taycan Cross Turismo but that’s a big price gap.

love the custom color!
 

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I have to admit, I thought purple would be ugly, but I kinda like it.
 

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That’s sayin a bit, cause that I4 M50 looks like a tremendous daily. Congrats on a great quiver.
 
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Also, a funny thing happened when we were waiting at the dealer, which took several hours despite paying cash. Some guy walked into the showroom and said I see a car I want to buy right now, and I have cash money. They asked him which one, and he pointed and said the purple one. They told him it was already sold; we had custom-ordered it.

I debated asking him what it was worth to him as for an extra 20K, I'd let him take that one. I didn't bother, though, because my wife would have been pissed, and I doubt he would have given me that money anyways. Most people who act like that don't have the money to back it up, and I doubt he realized it was 80K as it sat, plus the 20 I would want to part with. My wife and I have perfect timing when it comes to buying stuff lately; there have been several works at the art gallery we frequent that I've been able to snag right before someone else.
 

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So, I've mentioned before that we had an i4 M50 on order for my wife. We were able to pick it up yesterday, and I've put a hundred or so miles on it in the last day, driving around and running errands. I don't have the whole thing dialed in yet, but I have enough time behind the wheel to get a few impressions that I would like to share with everyone.

I will avoid comparing driving dynamics as comparing a pickup, and a small sport sedan is like comparing an apple and a sandstorm. I feel a few things can be compared as the steering feel. Surprisingly, I get better steering feedback from the R1 than I do the i4, but as far as on-road handling, the i4 beats the R1 by a significant margin. It's expected that the car's center of gravity is on the ground compared to the truck. My Rivian is sporty for a truck but no sports car. The BMW cannot do any truck things, so comparing these is more or less useless.

On to the the things that can be compared. I'm going to start with the interiors. The i4 has a wraparound display; it is pretty nice. I'd say the displays are a tie. The leather seats in my i4 are excellent, but the overall interior quality isn't as nice as my Rivian. The wood trim isn't as nice, and the vinyl isn't as nice as the Rivian's. Even with the quality seats, I give the interior an edge to Rivian.

The launch mode in the BMW is much more fun. When you first engage it, the car lurches slightly against the brakes, making you feel like you're about to take off. The pedal mapping in sport for the i4 is a little bit more direct than the Rivian, which makes the Bimmer feel faster than the Rivian even though it's technically slower. It also means sport mode is less comfortable to daily the car in than the Rivian's sport mode is, so it's a trade-off off and I like how the mapping is done on each vehicle for that vehicle. The reason is that overall, the Rivian is much more comfortable, so it would be a better daily, and the i4 would be a great car to get somewhere in a hurry or have fun on a back road. If I'm taking a car to the dragon, it will be the i4, but running errands will be the R1, except when going downtown or in cramped spaces, the i4's smaller size is an asset.

Stereo: I got the premium sound in the i4 and preferred the R1's system. The i4 doesn't seem to have the punch or clarity. I am reserving final judgment on this because I'm comparing satellite radio in the i4 to tidal in the Rivian, so I know the quality of the inputs is different.

Infotainment: I prefer the UX of the Rivian, but that could be that I spend so much time here and have been around since reasonably early on in Rivian's process so adding a feature at a time is much easier to learn than trying to figure the whole thing out at once. The i4 does have a lot of options the Rivian does not, such as being able to change the color of interior lighting, and I have a HUD. The HUD in the i4 is really nice and easy to see and you can change what is displayed there, and you can change the instrument cluster as well which is a feature I wish Rivian had. I know some of you would like the AA and CarPlay in the i4, but I can't use it anyway running GrapheneOs.

Noise: The i4 has the option for artificial engine noise. It's pretty accurately represented, but I turned it off almost immediately. I have grown to appreciate the silence of the EV at this point. Regarding outside noise, the BMW has zero wind noise, while the Rivian has a little. The Rivian has almost no tire and road noise, and the i4 has some. They are pretty close in noise, with Rivian getting an extremely slight edge to the quiet side because the tire noise is always there in the i4, but the wind noise isn't always there in the Rivian.

Paint: I haven't gotten the i4 to the detailer yet, but I have more orange peel on the i4 than I do on my Rivian currently, which is saying something as we got the upgraded custom paint, a 5K dollar option. It looks good, but I didn't think there would be as much peel. Hopefully, they applied it thicker than the base model color so my detailer can eliminate it.

Overall, they are different vehicles for different purposes, and I like them both. The Rivian makes a better daily and a better traveling car, but running around town, the i4 is fun to drive. I'm glad Rivian stands up well on the finishings and performance front. I am so happy we got rid of our ICE Audi. The i4 is a significant upgrade. The i4 is my wife's car, so this is moot, but if the vehicles were for me and I had to choose to get rid of one, I'd probably keep the Rivian. It's more comfortable by a pretty significant margin, and the gap in comfort between the two is more prominent in the Rivian's favor than the gap in fun to drive is in the i4's favor.
Great write up. Congrats on the new car-nice choice! I never thought purple would look this good. Cheers!
 

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The launch mode in the BMW is much more fun. When you first engage it, the car lurches slightly against the brakes, making you feel like you're about to take off. The pedal mapping in sport for the i4 is a little bit more direct than the Rivian, which makes the Bimmer feel faster than the Rivian even though it's technically slower. It also means sport mode is less comfortable to daily the car in than the Rivian's sport mode is, so it's a trade-off off and I like how the mapping is done on each vehicle for that vehicle. The reason is that overall, the Rivian is much more comfortable, so it would be a better daily, and the i4 would be a great car to get somewhere in a hurry or have fun on a back road. If I'm taking a car to the dragon, it will be the i4, but running errands will be the R1, except when going downtown or in cramped spaces, the i4's smaller size is an asset.

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Thanks for the great review and beautiful car. Besides the smaller size for parking downtown and handling dynamics did you also see a significantly improved efficiency due to size? Say for an occasional long commute. Or was it not noticeable?
 

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Thanks for the great review and beautiful car. Besides the smaller size for parking downtown and handling dynamics did you also see a significantly improved efficiency due to size? Say for an occasional long commute. Or was it not noticeable?
It is quite a bit more efficient. I haven't done any testing to find out how much, but the same sort of drives use similar battery percentages but the battery is half the size. Plus we get two years free EV charging in the BMW so for shorter trips it would be a great choice. Only if we aren't taking our son though because at 13 he's already complaining about the lack of room in the back. I wouldn't take it on our usual cross country to WI trip that we take though as it's just too far and I would be folded up like a pretzel and need some serious chiropractic care after that trip.

Stands to reason it would be more efficient though it's a significantly smaller vehicle.
 

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It is quite a bit more efficient. I haven't done any testing to find out how much, but the same sort of drives use similar battery percentages but the battery is half the size. Plus we get two years free EV charging in the BMW so for shorter trips it would be a great choice. Only if we aren't taking our son though because at 13 he's already complaining about the lack of room in the back. I wouldn't take it on our usual cross country to WI trip that we take though as it's just too far and I would be folded up like a pretzel and need some serious chiropractic care after that trip.

Stands to reason it would be more efficient though it's a significantly smaller vehicle.
Makes sense. Thanks. Also, just out of curiosity, did you consider the i5 too? Years back I chose a 5 series over the 3 series basically due to having a tall son, brother, and father- even for myself the difference was noticeable for comfort. (Edit: 4->3 series.)
 
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I didn't realize they are so limited in space in the rear. Can you post pix? Even the 3 series sedan has gotten pretty roomy especially compared to a 6 series coupe. We've got an e46 convertible which is 1 series size so of course that's tight. Actually, post more pix all around. It would be cool to see.
 

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Also, a funny thing happened when we were waiting at the dealer, which took several hours despite paying cash. Some guy walked into the showroom and said I see a car I want to buy right now, and I have cash money. They asked him which one, and he pointed and said the purple one. They told him it was already sold; we had custom-ordered it.
Guy probably needed something right away because he f'ed up Christmas for the wife.
 
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I didn't realize they are so limited in space in the rear. Can you post pix? Even the 3 series sedan has gotten pretty roomy especially compared to a 6 series coupe. We've got an e46 convertible which is 1 series size so of course that's tight. Actually, post more pix all around. It would be cool to see.
Sure I'll take a few later and update this post.
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