Rivians built with CCS charge ports will get free NACS adapter, with additional adapters available in the Gear Shop

[Scoiatael]

I was expecting to pay for the adapter. Good news. If they offer a retrofit, I likely wouldn't do it since my home charger is J1772 and I don't want to have an adapter for it.

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[chrismc]

I’ll probably get the NACS adapter before I get my broken tonneau replaced

That was my exact first thought as well. Priorities!

 

[uthatch]

This may have been discussed, but I didn't see it. So how are RAN chargers going to work if the trucks are switched exclusively to NACS moving forward? Or is there going to be 2 charging receptacles, NACS and CCS?

I can't see Rivian building all these RAN chargers with CCS and then changing the plug on all of them? And would that halt current RAN openings until the the new plug style is ready?

So many questions...

 

[seatosummit]

This may have been discussed, but I didn't see it. So how are RAN chargers going to work if the trucks are switched exclusively to NACS moving forward? Or is there going to be 2 charging receptacles, NACS and CCS?

I can't see Rivian building all these RAN chargers with CCS and then changing the plug on all of them? And would that halt current RAN openings until the the new plug style is ready?

So many questions...

The NACS charge cables made my Tesla are intentionally inexpensive. They have a reduced thermal service life relative to Phoenix Contact / Huber Suhner but their argument is that the cable will need to be replaced due to vandalism or unintentional dropping before the thermal service life is reached.

Hopefully Tesla will sell cables to other network operators and OEMs. Will make it fairly inexpensive to swap out CCS cables.

 

[mini2nut]

Tesla Superchargers are going to get very crowded.

 

[evguy]

This may have been discussed, but I didn't see it. So how are RAN chargers going to work if the trucks are switched exclusively to NACS moving forward? Or is there going to be 2 charging receptacles, NACS and CCS?

I can't see Rivian building all these RAN chargers with CCS and then changing the plug on all of them? And would that halt current RAN openings until the the new plug style is ready?

So many questions...

The adapter will be available in 2024. NACS ports won't be installed on Rivian vehicles until 2025. I suspect that Rivian will continue RAN installation with CCS through 2024, then switch to NACS only for new RAN installations in 2025 or 2026, and the adapter will work at the RAN stations that are NACS.

And I do think that, over time, Rivian will upgrade the cables at RAN stations that were installed prior to the switch.

 

[mini2nut]

We use our Model Y charging cord to charge both of our BEV’s. I simply use a charging adapter when plugging in our R1T. I leave the Rivian charging cable in the frunk.

The Tesla Supercharging network is awesome. In almost 2.5 years we have only encountered one Supercharger that was non operational.

 

[Autolycus]

I'd be interested in the schematics supporting this. Not saying you're incorrect, but my brain is having trouble rationalizing the ability to create a relatively small adapter but the inability to do so internally through hardwiring.

In my simple brain, this isn't vastly different than replacing a home outlet with a newer model that say, supports USB-C.

Because Tesla carries AC or DC over the same pins, the car side of the port is set up very differently from CCS, which has dedicated pins for AC and DC. CCS cars don’t have to protect the battery from AC coming over the DC pins or DC coming over the AC pins, so the electronics are different. It also means the DC wires often go direct to the battery, with the AC wires going to the onboard charger. With Tesla, all wires come off the pins and go to a single controller that decides whether to connect the power lines from the port to the battery or the onboard charger.


An adapter is simpler because it just has to send the 2 power pins directly to the DC port. I’m kind of expecting that there will be separate adapters for L2 AC charging and DCFC.

 

[Riviot]

This is excellent. Totally exceeded expectations.

Hopefully we don't need to take action to hold them to it.

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We use our Model Y charging cord to charge both of our BEV’s. I simply use a charging adapter when plugging in our R1T. I leave the Rivian charging cable in the frunk.

The Tesla Supercharging network is awesome. In almost 2.5 years we have only encountered one Supercharger that was non operational.

That's AC level 1 or 2, the challenge is DC fast charging.

 

[uthatch]

The adapter will be available in 2024. NACS ports won't be installed on Rivian vehicles until 2025. I suspect that Rivian will continue RAN installation with CCS through 2024, then switch to NACS only for new RAN installations in 2025 or 2026, and the adapter will work at the RAN stations that are NACS.

And I do think that, over time, Rivian will upgrade the cables at RAN stations that were installed prior to the switch.

I understand the timelines stated. But there is no mention of an adaptor that goes CCS to NACS, which is what would be needed for any vehicle to charge at a RAN after the NACS switch. Perhaps Rivian will immediately begin building RAN's with NACS and let the adaptors do all the adapting work while using the time between now and when the first vehicles roll out with NACS to retrofit the older RAN sites.

I'm sure the solution will come, but it's an obvious hole in the plan right now.

 

[jebinc]

And yet some on reddit are carrying pitchforks demanding retrofit.

 

[ohseedee]

Pretty great news. I was not surprised by the switch to NACS, but very surprised by the free adaptor. I would have had zero issue if they charged us ~$500 for it. So in about a year I’ll be able to charge at every CCS and NACS and it won’t cost me anything to do so (Other than of course the cost of the charge).

 

[jebinc]

Pretty great news. I was not surprised by the switch to NACS, but very surprised by the free adaptor. I would have had zero issue if they charged us ~$500 for it. So in about a year I’ll be able to charge at every CCS and NACS and it won’t cost me anything to do so (Other than of course the cost of the charge).

I’ll believe it when I see it - and my replacement tonneau cover….

 

[R1Tom]

This may have been discussed, but I didn't see it. So how are RAN chargers going to work if the trucks are switched exclusively to NACS moving forward? Or is there going to be 2 charging receptacles, NACS and CCS?

I can't see Rivian building all these RAN chargers with CCS and then changing the plug on all of them? And would that halt current RAN openings until the the new plug style is ready?

So many questions...

I suspect this is the why they are going to give everyone a NACS adapter. Because the RAN network will likely be converting to NACS and it would be a tough sell to tell all the Rivian owners that they can't even connect to the RAN network unless the buy an adapter.

 

[HaveBlue]

Hard to know how different the wiring is. CCS cars still need a contactor to isolate the onboard converter (and battery for that matter) from the external port. I can't imagine 480V being present at the DC pins all the time. Can someone give them a lick test and get back with us?

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