For those who got R1S (or R1T) at original approximately $78k would you buy one for new price of approximately $93k?

[GHuff]

Definitely not. If you want a $100k vehicle and don't care about electric, there are wayyyyy nicer options out there. If all you care about is electric, then I would wait a little longer because more options are coming out every month.

If you want an off-road capable/practical, electric, and some luxury, right now Rivian is your only option. But if any of those are not that important to you, then no it's not worth. Say, you just want off-road capable and luxury, and don't care about electric--I would definitely not recommend the Rivian. Or if you want electric and off-road...I would probably recommend the Lightning or wait for another vehicle to come to market.

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[GHuff]

This thread has really devolved...so many of these answers are coming from a personal financial lens (e.g. $80k was already pushing it for my budget so NO, or I don't want to pay $95k for a toy...). These answers are useless IMO, and I say that as someone who is near the top end of his budget in buying the R1S at $80k.

It's a simple question. Just compare the value you're getting from your R1T/R1S to what else you could get for $95k on the market. I have yet to see someone offer up another vehicle in the $90-$100k range that they would prefer.

Jeep Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer, or Grand Wagoneer. All three of those have insane features, just ooze lux, and are pretty off-road capable.

I have a friend that has a Grand Wagoneer and the air suspension is flawless. It has a kneel mode similar to Rivians' but works much better and smoother. Those types of things are just expected with a long standing manufacturer. Rivian feels like they just accomplished an engineering feat by enabling a kneel mode. The list of Wagoneer features is 10x Rivian's and it is roughly the same price.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Or if you want electric and off-road...I would probably recommend the Lightning or wait for another vehicle to come to market.

The Lightning's ground clearance is similar to the Rivian's ground clearance in sport mode. It's not a great off-roader unless you're driving in a relatively flat area.

 

[JeremyMKE]

This is a good question being posted in really different economic times that when I got my R1T in April. Is the vehicle a $100K vehicle? Yes in my opinion it absolutely is. Build quality, features, and performance are up to snuff especially with the fact that it is a first vehicle. I think its deluded to think that BMW, MB, etc... dont have build quality issues, especially with electrics.

Service? Well... Thats another story. They are overwhelmed and its been a mixed bag. HOWEVER who here LOVES dealers and can count on them to do it right every time.

The original question is would I buy it at the new price. Maybe but thats not because of the vehicle per se. Its personal economics. The big factor that isnt personal is Rivian viability in a market downturn.

Wow that was a lot of words for "Maybe"

I love the damn truck. I dont regret buying it at all.

 

[GHuff]

Missing features

• CarPlay
• Heads up display
• Massaging seats
• More seat adjustment (bolsters, thighs, headrests)
• Lane changes and lane centering on unmapped roads
• Well-thought interior storage
• A logical key system

None of these things independently ruins the experience, but collectively they add up to an experience that does not command such a price premium. $75-80k is the right price.

The Missing Features is really my biggest beef with the vehicle. Any other vehicle in this price range is feature rich. I'm talking massage chairs, cup holder heater/cooler, parking assist, passenger screen, rear passenger screens, custom accent lighting, highly integrated maps that display price of gas, etc. They are insanely feature rich. Rivian isn't just not feature rich, it is feature lacking. It doesn't have basic features like a HUD, CarPlay, USB Audio, custom accent lighting, turn signal/blind spot video, more than 2 cup holders, etc.

You are giving up a ton of features that are typical at this price point by going electric.

 

[COdogman]

Definitely not. If you want a $100k vehicle and don't care about electric, there are wayyyyy nicer options out there. If all you care about is electric, then I would wait a little longer because more options are coming out every month.

If you want an off-road capable/practical, electric, and some luxury, right now Rivian is your only option. But if any of those are not that important to you, then no it's not worth. Say, you just want off-road capable and luxury, and don't care about electric--I would definitely not recommend the Rivian. Or if you want electric and off-road...I would probably recommend the Lightning or wait for another vehicle to come to market.

None of the Lightning models currently available are as capable off road as a Rivian. And neither are any of the EV trucks that we KNOW for sure will be produced.

Which other electric options are you referring to that can off-road like a Rivian?

 

[Dark-Fx]

Which other electric options are you referring to that can off-road like a Rivian?

If I were the type of person to trailer an ORV jeep to a trail, I'd probably have put down a deposit on one of these, but I'm not.
https://vanderhallusa.com/models-new-brawley-2022/

 

[COdogman]

If I were the type of person to trailer an ORV jeep to a trail, I'd probably have put down a deposit on one of these, but I'm not.
https://vanderhallusa.com/models-new-brawley-2022/

That thing looks like it would be an absolute blast to drive.

 

[Mysta]

The Missing Features is really my biggest beef with the vehicle. Any other vehicle in this price range is feature rich. I'm talking massage chairs, cup holder heater/cooler, parking assist, passenger screen, rear passenger screens, custom accent lighting, highly integrated maps that display price of gas, etc. They are insanely feature rich. Rivian isn't just not feature rich, it is feature lacking. It doesn't have basic features like a HUD, CarPlay, USB Audio, custom accent lighting, turn signal/blind spot video, more than 2 cup holders, etc.

You are giving up a ton of features that are typical at this price point by going electric.

As someone who has both 'loaded' vehicle and Rivian, honestly most of the 'features lists' are gimmicky. Massage can be ok but honestly.. wouldn't pay extra for it for sure. most of those you list rivian has or can have with software updates. Legacy manufacturers are still at the point where if you buy the car, that's it. Nothing new is coming.

 

[R1Tom]

Only if you are close to a service center. And if you are willing to pay the "early adopter tax" many on these forums like to throw out everytime a problem is posted about. And if you don't mind knowing policies like alternative transportation while your R1 is in for service or out of service, are subject to change. Or how you will be charged for vehicle connectivity, services, possibly features are undefined. If you can't find it in writing, it is at Rivian discretion. And I don't believe to many of those discretions have ended up in consumers favor. Investors favor maybe, if they still have customers in a few years.

I still love the truck...but all of the above is very true, and makes this journey better for some than others. I personally don't think they have evolved the business enough to be more than a niche player right now, with best target customers willing to deal with these oddities, because it is such an amazing product.

The product is beyond compare. The rest of the company...from my interactions, still requires you consider the "early adopter tax" for an unknown time.

 

[Acoustic71]

Hey, watch it. Just turned 80 and got R1S!

I’m 72, so we’re all good!

 

[razmataz]

Definitely not. If you want a $100k vehicle and don't care about electric, there are wayyyyy nicer options out there. If all you care about is electric, then I would wait a little longer because more options are coming out every month.

If you want an off-road capable/practical, electric, and some luxury, right now Rivian is your only option. But if any of those are not that important to you, then no it's not worth. Say, you just want off-road capable and luxury, and don't care about electric--I would definitely not recommend the Rivian. Or if you want electric and off-road...I would probably recommend the Lightning or wait for another vehicle to come to market.

I have a late 2019 r1s reservation and am willing to pay the $100K today if that gets me the SUV with the features, including the OC interior, etc, I am looking for. I am looking at the resale and auction sites and these are going for $115K+, just saw one go for as high as $130K+... and then if I change mind, flip it when mine comes around...

 

[Tahoe Man]

Regardless of what others say here, I bet many would pay the higher prices if the EV mania was still in full force. If RIVN was hitting new highs along with the stock market and others were giddy with excitement. This is called social proof in sales and it feeds on itself until basically it no longer does. This is a time when manufacturers and retailers have an all clear on raising prices. They did and it worked.

 

[JAH]

I would have switched to a dual motor, lower specced version (that still includes nearly all the useful features) to hit the 70-80k mark

 

[timf]

While overall I'm happy with my R1S and feel it's a better vehicle than my former Model X, I don't think I would buy it again at the current pricing. One of the big selling features of the Rivian is performance, but I find I rarely push it anywhere close to its limits. Having 4 motors and under 4 second 0-60 is simply overkill for how I drive. I'd gladly sacrifice that to stay under $80k next time.

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