R1S Review: "The Tesla Bronco Defender" -- Throttle House

[jclicky]

Throttle House posted their review of the R1S:



Of note, they went into detail on the suspension’s handling at ~3min. mark; I keep hearing of owners who throw their ride into stiff mode (instead of comfort). Really can’t wait for a first-ride to actually experience this in person.

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[Joints4Sale]

Entertaining, as are most of their videos.

At 14:17.........."Subaru meets Polestar"

Just wait for the R2

 

[onebadmofo]

I wonder if they filmed it before the last update? The Sport mode was unbearable before.

 

[LoneStar]

Lots of reviews begrudge the driving dynamics of the S vs. T.
I sure hope that Rivian addresses it through OTA updates.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

The 4 button presses for the wheel thing was a little aggravating considering you can just tap on your name and bring up that same screen with 1 press.

 

[Joints4Sale]

The 4 button presses for the wheel thing was a little aggravating considering you can just tap on your name and bring up that same screen with 1 press.

or nudge any of the seat controls

 

[opnwide]

For god’s sake Rivian, add the frickin CarPlay/AA already! For those who want to use Rivian’s mapping system, fine. It would be a game changer/sales boon.

 

[Mjl]

Really love throttle house. I thought the review was fair. I'm more of an SUV guy and the R1S would have likely been a better fit for the family, but they're right that the R1T simply revolutionized pickups. The gear tunnel is awesome and I really makes me not miss the cargo space having a large frunk. Very happy I kept with the R1T overall.

90% of my gripes with rivians UI are the maps. The other 10% is how limited the spotify/tidal integration is. Otherwise it's awesome. I liked how James fought back on a lot of Thomas complaints. Like how many times do you really adjust the steering wheel? I've done it twice since owning. Seat controls are easy and standard.

 

[computertom]

The CarPlay thing is real. I didn't think it would be. I thought I'd be fine, as I have other non-Carplay cars and I would just deal, but it turns out, for a new, $90K vehicle, this is a big gap. We have two trucks in my garage. They are both awesome. One is an SUV with more room, more off road capability, an ICE, and CarPlay with screens that are nearly as nice and responsive as the Rivian. The other is the R1T. The CarPlay just works in the Braptor and is sooooo much nicer to use, trustworthy, full featured, and easier to navigate with my phone for all the things I like to do while driving. I'm learning how to try to get by with the R1T, but it's such a Busch League experience in comparison. It's borderline awful. Is it licensing? Is it money? What's the deal? RJ read the room. Do what you do well, well, and outsource what you suck at. Differentiate yourself from the Tesla (who is quite good now) and Lucid.

 

[rraj2k81]

The best part of this review pretty much highlight why I am holding onto it is,

'If you got it for 70 grand you are laughing'

 

[Biturbowned]

The 4 button presses for the wheel thing was a little aggravating considering you can just tap on your name and bring up that same screen with 1 press.

If you’re going to tow regularly, you can create a driver profile with the mirror settings Etc for towing. Pretty simple really. It’s a common complaint that just isn’t that big of a deal imo.

Edit: For those of you who want to camp/sleep in your car, you can create a camp driver profile that pushes the driver/passenger seats far forward to give you as much space as possible. Just some experience from doing so in a Model Y.

 

[DJG]

If you’re going to tow regularly, you can create a driver profile with the mirror settings Etc for towing. Pretty simple really. It’s a common complaint that just isn’t that big of a deal imo.

Edit: For those of you who want to camp/sleep in your car, you can create a camp driver profile that pushes the driver/passenger seats far forward to give you as much space as possible. Just some experience from doing so in a Model Y.

If a car review has to dig deep into how quickly can you adjust the steering wheel and mirrors (and gets it wrong), you know you've got a pretty good one.

 

[Biturbowned]

The CarPlay thing is real. I didn't think it would be. I thought I'd be fine, as I have other non-Carplay cars and I would just deal, but it turns out, for a new, $90K vehicle, this is a big gap. We have two trucks in my garage. They are both awesome. One is an SUV with more room, more off road capability, an ICE, and CarPlay with screens that are nearly as nice and responsive as the Rivian. The other is the R1T. The CarPlay just works in the Braptor and is sooooo much nicer to use, trustworthy, full featured, and easier to navigate with my phone for all the things I like to do while driving. I'm learning how to try to get by with the R1T, but it's such a Busch League experience in comparison. It's borderline awful. Is it licensing? Is it money? What's the deal? RJ read the room. Do what you do well, well, and outsource what you suck at. Differentiate yourself from the Tesla (who is quite good now) and Lucid.

Plotting a trip where you need to stop for a charge will probably be difficult with CarPlay/AA because the car knows its efficiency and can dynamically recalculate range and potentially add/remove stops once you get underway. I don’t know if that’s possible w/ CarPlay/AA. Maybe someone w/ an EV + CarPlay/AA can elaborate.

Edit: And charge curves needed to determine time spent DCFC might A) be proprietary and B) are subject to change w/ OTA software updates. It seems like a PITA to keep track of all of that for all of the different cars out there.

 

[frostbit3]

Plotting a trip where you need to stop for a charge will probably be difficult with CarPlay/AA because the car knows its efficiency and can dynamically recalculate range and potentially add/remove stops once you get underway. I don’t know if that’s possible w/ CarPlay/AA. Maybe someone w/ an EV + CarPlay/AA can elaborate.

Edit: And charge curves needed to determine time spent DCFC might A) be proprietary and B) are subject to change w/ OTA software updates. It seems like a PITA to keep track of all of that for all of the different cars out there.

Actually ABRP knows my truck better than the R1T does. I've done a few 500+ mile road trips using ABRP via CarPlay on a screen I installed and ABRP was 100% accurate the entire way, where the Rivian's nav was all over the board on if I'd make it, how much I would have when I got there, etc. It also was adamant I wasn't going to make it one time until I got within 50 miles of it, whereas ABRP the entire way was within 1% of what the R1T was actually at.

 

[computertom]

Plotting a trip where you need to stop for a charge will probably be difficult with CarPlay/AA because the car knows its efficiency and can dynamically recalculate range and potentially add/remove stops once you get underway. I don’t know if that’s possible w/ CarPlay/AA. Maybe someone w/ an EV + CarPlay/AA can elaborate.

Great point. That’s probably 10% of what I do with my phone in my car, but that would be a very important 10%. On local roads I’d not be looking to replace Waze with charging / Rivian Maps or vice versa. Waze is just worlds better, and they have police … this truck is FAST! Knowing where our local constables are hanging out has a lot of value…

SMS / iMessage / Siri is worlds better and safer. Calling is easier (at leas for me).

An app for Audible vs having to launch looking down at my phone (illegal here in Mass) is so much better.

Listening to Podcasts … the same thing.

Apple Music. Ditto.

I could go on.

I suppose I could just not do these things, and that would be safer or maybe just listen to some FM radio, but all in all, this is a fail. I didn’t want it to be, but dang, it is.

I am hopeful Rivian can fix the seven service issues I have waiting on my first visit to the SC, but sadly this is one I think they’ll never fix. Missing greatness over table stakes that are included in $30K entry level CUVs. Such a fail.

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