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Took the Rivian on its first winter road trip. Complete with all the weather. Plan was Portland to Cannon Beach, OR. Distance is relatively short, 84 miles each way. Didn't plan on much driving at the destination. 2-5 miles. Grocery story, restaurants. Staying at a rental, only have access to 110V charging. Storm is coming. Portland area is on tap to get high winds, unseasonably cold temperatures, and snow. On the coast, cold, but not as cold, windy but not as bad. Might snow. Outside of the 110V at the rental, charging options aren't great in Cannon. One 50kw station that's been offline for a while, with no scheduled return to service based on last email to EVCS, although plugshare people reports maybe making it work. Handful of L2 options, but at hotels where we're not staying. Leave home Friday afternoon with 100% SOC and blue skies. Get to Cannon. Arrive with 60% charge. Worst case, looks one charge round trip is doable. Make a grocery run, then leave the car on the 110 at 10 amps. Popped the GFI breaker thing on the plug at 12.

Saturday the rain starts. The wind howls. Rain turns to freezing rain. Between all of that, power is knocked out for the whole town just after lunch. Prior to power going out, 110 charging has me to about 68%. Rental has a toasty gas fire place. Temps drops and the wet ground and falling rain turns to ice. Everything outside is slick as whale snot. Restaraunts all closed. Ventured out and found a random mini mart keeping the lights on with a portable generator and making pizza to go. Plus decent wine selection. Sold. Eventually power comes back and put the Rivian back on the 110 for the night.

Sunday morning time to come home. Charge is back to about 70%. Road reports are showing ice and block ice on the 101 and the lower portions of US26 (coastal and sea level) , turning to snow and packed snow during the short climb. Give the sun a chance and leave around 1200. Chains required on the 101 and a large portion of 26. 3 mountain peak tires also count on the Rivian. Ice was ice. Once we got to snow the Rivian was a champ. Last snow whip was a Q5 and I ran Nokian Hakkas (non-studded) in the winter. Rivian Scorpion combo was on part.

Lessons learned
-ABC. Always be Charging. Glad I didn't count on one of the other local L2 or L3 charger. Power outage took them all out too.
-110V charging isn't the end of the world. I could count on 1-2 miles per hour. Not the worst, but if little driving at destination for a few days it makes a difference.
-When on ice, use snow mode, and keep regen on min. Learned that the hard way on the black ice stretch.
-The new 50.1 preconditioning and blended regen was helpful. I used it prior to outings to melt the ice off the front window and prep the battery, regen was never limited and window was clear. Lows weren't crazy, high 20s. But have the pack warmed up to the 50s was helpful for efficiency.
-Avoid leaving the charging port door open in freezing rain
-The door handle design is less than idea for freezing rain, but seemed to deal with the inability to fully close just fine when ice found its under the handle
-The frunk won't stay open when its covered with a sheet of ice
-Rear wipe design sucks in these conditions. Wiper fluid, and running the rear window heating element (repeatedly) weren't enough to make the wiper blade functional.
-The OEM ATs do well on snow. Guessing there aren't many all weather 3MSP options that are notably better. Short of going to dedicated winters, they do well.
-Temps on the way home were in the teens. Given my own risk management calculus, I don't think I'd want to do a trip like that with good charging options at least very 120 miles or so. May not always need them, but given the impact of cold on efficiency and impact of being marooned in those conditions seems like a safe place to be. Especially hauling my kids around.

My in-laws brought their Jeep. It never moved until departure. 0.25+ inches of ice from the freezing rain.

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The scorpions are objectively pretty poor in the snow.
 

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are these rentals not come with washer/dryer? You could have use that plug instead of the 110v?
 
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are these rentals not come with washer/dryer? You could have use that plug instead of the 110v?
Yes washer dryer. Small stack unit. Opposite corner of house from any parking option and shoehorned into a closet.
 

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The scorpions are objectively pretty poor in the snow.
It's good to make people aware of this one test in one particular set of conditions, but that doesn't discount other experiences either. I've read a bunch of good reports on here about Pirelli ATs in the snow. I'm on that list. I would never discourage someone from getting snow tires but I also haven't seen a lot of complaints "tried my ATs in the snow and was disappointed".
 

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It's good to make people aware of this one test in one particular set of conditions, but that doesn't discount other experiences either. I've read a bunch of good reports on here about Pirelli ATs in the snow. I'm on that list. I would never discourage someone from getting snow tires but I also haven't seen a lot of complaints "tried my ATs in the snow and was disappointed".
There have been quite a few people point out the are quite disappointing in the snow. That one test is useful because it gives a quantitative evaluation against a series of other ATs, an AS, and a winter tire rather than a bunch of opinions.
 

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Took the Rivian on its first winter road trip. Complete with all the weather. Plan was Portland to Cannon Beach, OR. Distance is relatively short, 84 miles each way. Didn't plan on much driving at the destination. 2-5 miles. Grocery story, restaurants. Staying at a rental, only have access to 110V charging. Storm is coming. Portland area is on tap to get high winds, unseasonably cold temperatures, and snow. On the coast, cold, but not as cold, windy but not as bad. Might snow. Outside of the 110V at the rental, charging options aren't great in Cannon. One 50kw station that's been offline for a while, with no scheduled return to service based on last email to EVCS, although plugshare people reports maybe making it work. Handful of L2 options, but at hotels where we're not staying. Leave home Friday afternoon with 100% SOC and blue skies. Get to Cannon. Arrive with 60% charge. Worst case, looks one charge round trip is doable. Make a grocery run, then leave the car on the 110 at 10 amps. Popped the GFI breaker thing on the plug at 12.

Saturday the rain starts. The wind howls. Rain turns to freezing rain. Between all of that, power is knocked out for the whole town just after lunch. Prior to power going out, 110 charging has me to about 68%. Rental has a toasty gas fire place. Temps drops and the wet ground and falling rain turns to ice. Everything outside is slick as whale snot. Restaraunts all closed. Ventured out and found a random mini mart keeping the lights on with a portable generator and making pizza to go. Plus decent wine selection. Sold. Eventually power comes back and put the Rivian back on the 110 for the night.

Sunday morning time to come home. Charge is back to about 70%. Road reports are showing ice and block ice on the 101 and the lower portions of US26 (coastal and sea level) , turning to snow and packed snow during the short climb. Give the sun a chance and leave around 1200. Chains required on the 101 and a large portion of 26. 3 mountain peak tires also count on the Rivian. Ice was ice. Once we got to snow the Rivian was a champ. Last snow whip was a Q5 and I ran Nokian Hakkas (non-studded) in the winter. Rivian Scorpion combo was on part.

Lessons learned
-ABC. Always be Charging. Glad I didn't count on one of the other local L2 or L3 charger. Power outage took them all out too.
-110V charging isn't the end of the world. I could count on 1-2 miles per hour. Not the worst, but if little driving at destination for a few days it makes a difference.
-When on ice, use snow mode, and keep regen on min. Learned that the hard way on the black ice stretch.
-The new 50.1 preconditioning and blended regen was helpful. I used it prior to outings to melt the ice off the front window and prep the battery, regen was never limited and window was clear. Lows weren't crazy, high 20s. But have the pack warmed up to the 50s was helpful for efficiency.
-Avoid leaving the charging port door open in freezing rain
-The door handle design is less than idea for freezing rain, but seemed to deal with the inability to fully close just fine when ice found its under the handle
-The frunk won't stay open when its covered with a sheet of ice
-Rear wipe design sucks in these conditions. Wiper fluid, and running the rear window heating element (repeatedly) weren't enough to make the wiper blade functional.
-The OEM ATs do well on snow. Guessing there aren't many all weather 3MSP options that are notably better. Short of going to dedicated winters, they do well.
-Temps on the way home were in the teens. Given my own risk management calculus, I don't think I'd want to do a trip like that with good charging options at least very 120 miles or so. May not always need them, but given the impact of cold on efficiency and impact of being marooned in those conditions seems like a safe place to be. Especially hauling my kids around.

My in-laws brought their Jeep. It never moved until departure. 0.25+ inches of ice from the freezing rain.

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I’m just feeling cold reading this adventure story ??
 
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Memories of the Hakkas on my Q5 come from the last few season, near the end of their life.

Any idea why that tire guy didn't test Nokians side by side? I see he has other Nokian reviews. WRG5 or Outpost AT? We run WRG4s on the wife's A4.
 
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Im always surprised when rivian owners think the scorpion AT on the 20” is good in snow. It is pure garbage and should be immediately replaced by rivian. Its shameful it has a 3p snow rating. Not to mention as it wears down it starts to drone. After i wore them down i replaced with cooper snow claw. My sanity is back. Quiet! And actually work on slippery surfaces. The POS scorpions work a little on fresh grippy snow but absolutely horrible in packed and slippery. Be careful. Snow mode did help.
 

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Took the Rivian on its first winter road trip. Complete with all the weather. Plan was Portland to Cannon Beach, OR. Distance is relatively short, 84 miles each way. Didn't plan on much driving at the destination. 2-5 miles. Grocery story, restaurants. Staying at a rental, only have access to 110V charging. Storm is coming. Portland area is on tap to get high winds, unseasonably cold temperatures, and snow. On the coast, cold, but not as cold, windy but not as bad. Might snow. Outside of the 110V at the rental, charging options aren't great in Cannon. One 50kw station that's been offline for a while, with no scheduled return to service based on last email to EVCS, although plugshare people reports maybe making it work. Handful of L2 options, but at hotels where we're not staying. Leave home Friday afternoon with 100% SOC and blue skies. Get to Cannon. Arrive with 60% charge. Worst case, looks one charge round trip is doable. Make a grocery run, then leave the car on the 110 at 10 amps. Popped the GFI breaker thing on the plug at 12.

Saturday the rain starts. The wind howls. Rain turns to freezing rain. Between all of that, power is knocked out for the whole town just after lunch. Prior to power going out, 110 charging has me to about 68%. Rental has a toasty gas fire place. Temps drops and the wet ground and falling rain turns to ice. Everything outside is slick as whale snot. Restaraunts all closed. Ventured out and found a random mini mart keeping the lights on with a portable generator and making pizza to go. Plus decent wine selection. Sold. Eventually power comes back and put the Rivian back on the 110 for the night.

Sunday morning time to come home. Charge is back to about 70%. Road reports are showing ice and block ice on the 101 and the lower portions of US26 (coastal and sea level) , turning to snow and packed snow during the short climb. Give the sun a chance and leave around 1200. Chains required on the 101 and a large portion of 26. 3 mountain peak tires also count on the Rivian. Ice was ice. Once we got to snow the Rivian was a champ. Last snow whip was a Q5 and I ran Nokian Hakkas (non-studded) in the winter. Rivian Scorpion combo was on part.

Lessons learned
-ABC. Always be Charging. Glad I didn't count on one of the other local L2 or L3 charger. Power outage took them all out too.
-110V charging isn't the end of the world. I could count on 1-2 miles per hour. Not the worst, but if little driving at destination for a few days it makes a difference.
-When on ice, use snow mode, and keep regen on min. Learned that the hard way on the black ice stretch.
-The new 50.1 preconditioning and blended regen was helpful. I used it prior to outings to melt the ice off the front window and prep the battery, regen was never limited and window was clear. Lows weren't crazy, high 20s. But have the pack warmed up to the 50s was helpful for efficiency.
-Avoid leaving the charging port door open in freezing rain
-The door handle design is less than idea for freezing rain, but seemed to deal with the inability to fully close just fine when ice found its under the handle
-The frunk won't stay open when its covered with a sheet of ice
-Rear wipe design sucks in these conditions. Wiper fluid, and running the rear window heating element (repeatedly) weren't enough to make the wiper blade functional.
-The OEM ATs do well on snow. Guessing there aren't many all weather 3MSP options that are notably better. Short of going to dedicated winters, they do well.
-Temps on the way home were in the teens. Given my own risk management calculus, I don't think I'd want to do a trip like that with good charging options at least very 120 miles or so. May not always need them, but given the impact of cold on efficiency and impact of being marooned in those conditions seems like a safe place to be. Especially hauling my kids around.

My in-laws brought their Jeep. It never moved until departure. 0.25+ inches of ice from the freezing rain.

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I would like to know more about that XJ in the last photo!
 
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I would like to know more about that XJ in the last photo!
My father-in-law's rig. He's the Original owner. 1999 sport trim. Going strong. AC doesn't work, but he mostly uses it for going to the mountain for skiing. 140k or 160k miles or so. I've debated if I'd want to buy and restore it if he ever gets rid of it.
 

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My father-in-law's rig. He's the Original owner. 1999 sport trim. Going strong. AC doesn't work, but he mostly uses it for going to the mountain for skiing. 140k or 160k miles or so. I've debated if I'd want to buy and restore it if he ever gets rid of it.
Love it! I had an ‘89, and wish I had a manual version now. It’s the holy grail of XJs, but they’re out there. Cheaper to get a significantly newer MT Wrangler - somewhat interfering with my plan to find another XJ.
 

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I too was in Cannon Beach today. Tough drive there. Ice everywhere, with cars spun out. Great job Rivian. Now I'm embarrassed I took my jeep instead of the Rivian. I heard a number of the hotels discounted their rates down to $80-$100/night because so many people were stuck in town. Oh, visited Pizza a'fetta while I was there. So glad they were open too.
 
 








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