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Before people gripe about how it’s “not worth it”, keep in mind that it’s likely more expensive because every battery cell has more advanced chemistry.
It’s not just more large pack cells. You’re getting more range without any added battery pack weight. IMO, this is significant. And the max pack cells probably have a different charging curve than the large packs. We’ll have to see!
It’s not just more large pack cells. You’re getting more range without any added battery pack weight. IMO, this is significant. And the max pack cells probably have a different charging curve than the large packs. We’ll have to see!
Supratachophobia
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It's not any extra cells. You are paying 16k for an extra 15-20kwh. That's insanely awful.
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1. It’s $10k more.
2. You don’t know how much more kWh you’re getting.
3. It’s entirely different battery chemistry, so you’re going to get different charging curves, imo much better than the large pack’s, but we’ll have to see
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Assuming similar EPA efficiency numbers to the dual motor large pack (2.32mi/kWh), you're looking at a pack with ~20 extra kWh for $10k. On the surface, that doesn't seem like great value...especially considering the Department of Energy shows that costs have gotten below $200/kWh
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicle...ic-vehicle-battery-pack-costs-2022-are-nearly
https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicle...ic-vehicle-battery-pack-costs-2022-are-nearly
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$10k for "probably" different charging curves, and 39 miles of range. 39 more miles of range, at full charge, for $10k. Most people probably don't charge much above 80% on a road trip, due to the charge curve, so what does that work out to, 39 miles if leaving your house at 100% and an additional 30 miles each time you stop? This is definitely Rivian saying "If they say they want a max pack R1S, well here it is, we will take your money".
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We’ll have to see. But if I can get 20% to 80% of charge in the same time (or better) in the max pack than the large pack, it’s worth it to me. I get more miles much faster.
And, I’ve had off-road excursions where 20-30 miles made a big difference between having range anxiety or not
RayzorBEV
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Is it worth the price? To each his own, I'm actually happy that Rivian offers this; keeps them relevant and competitive.
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Exactly
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For pre-March preorder holders it’s only a $6k option, bringing total configuration price for my R1S to 83,950. I am definitely glad I waited. Large pack would be fine and I would have been happy with it, but it’s worth it for me.
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I know a bit about battery chemistry. And the only mass market 21700 is a 5800ah model (large pack is 5000), which you can use to figure out exactly what the extra kWh is. And 16k or 10k, it's still insanely overpriced. Trust me, I've been following this a while as Rivian has slowly walked back on the max pack promises. Oh, and that cell change? Sure it might be a different charging curve (my guess is worse not better), but get ready for some negative side effects, like steep degradation.
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Yes, I know you’ve been harping about it, and general nagging about anything Rivian.
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Does not matter.
Regardless of what new difference there is and how much that costs Rivian, it’s still a ridiculous $10,000 for just 48 more miles. And, that’s when it’s charged to 100%. How many times do you charge to 100% to see that difference?
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