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I noticed when he launched the R1S he didn’t do a brake stand like Rivian advises, I’m not sure if that makes a difference as I’ve always launched my truck by holding both pedals down and letting go of the brake. I’d be curious to know if that makes a difference in launch times
 

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We’ve got to do something about that speed limiter so these Rivians leave no doubt:muscle:
 
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We’ve got to do something about that speed limiter so these Rivians leave no doubt:muscle:
yeah, hard to believe we have to bring up a "limiter" when discussing quarter mile times for a performance vehicle. I wonder if it's due to a cooling limitation.
 

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yeah, hard to believe we have to bring up a "limiter" when discussing quarter mile times for a performance vehicle. I wonder if it's due to a cooling limitation.
That would make sense. Or Rivian’s effort to preserve my life a little longer.
 

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watching that all I can think is "man that Lambo's seat looks a lot more comfortable than my R1S seat"
 

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watching that all I can think is "man that Lambo's seat looks a lot more comfortable than my R1S seat"
Yeah but that's a $100k+ seat upgrade...;)
 

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yeah, hard to believe we have to bring up a "limiter" when discussing quarter mile times for a performance vehicle. I wonder if it's due to a cooling limitation.
I'm thinking it's more like the 7000+ pounds of vehicle with 800+ HP. Not to say that the other two aren't wicked heavy and wicked powerful, they are. Most larger vehicles with squishy suspensions I've had have a limiter in the 100MPH range, including a couple Raptors. I suppose the R1S could tighten up the suspension and be really planted, but geez, that's a lot of vehicle to control at 100+MPH.

Seems like Lambo has no choice, a limiter wouldn't do well with their brand. Plus it's got MASSIVE brakes. And that Shelby...I couldn't paid enough to ride in that rig. I've seen a Shelby Raptor tear 6" of cargo bed sheet metal on both sides in Baja just due to really bad engineering.
 

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I'm thinking it's more like the 7000+ pounds of vehicle with 800+ HP. Not to say that the other two aren't wicked heavy and wicked powerful, they are. Most larger vehicles with squishy suspensions I've had have a limiter in the 100MPH range, including a couple Raptors. I suppose the R1S could tighten up the suspension and be really planted, but geez, that's a lot of vehicle to control at 100+MPH.

Seems like Lambo has no choice, a limiter wouldn't do well with their brand. Plus it's got MASSIVE brakes. And that Shelby...I couldn't paid enough to ride in that rig. I've seen a Shelby Raptor tear 6" of cargo bed sheet metal on both sides in Baja just due to really bad engineering.
I think the main (at least advertised) speed limiter is in the tires, especially for the 20" ATs on the Rivian and the off-road shoes on the Shelby. I also read somewhere on this forum (so it MUST be true) that the original "first drive" R1Ts for the press events were limited at 130 mph - wouldn't that be fun! The post went on to point out that the motors' limits were ~150 mph and it was determined that 130 mph would potentially put too much stress on the motors, hence the lower 110 mph limit.

Either way, I think 115-120 mph limit would be better to at least allow the truck/suv to continue accelerating all the way through the quarter-mile...sucks to be maxed out for last 100 or so ft of the contest.
 

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I think the main (at least advertised) speed limiter is in the tires, especially for the 20" ATs on the Rivian and the off-road shoes on the Shelby. I also read somewhere on this forum (so it MUST be true) that the original "first drive" R1Ts for the press events were limited at 130 mph - wouldn't that be fun! The post went on to point out that the motors' limits were ~150 mph and it was determined that 130 mph would potentially put too much stress on the motors, hence the lower 110 mph limit.

Either way, I think 115-120 mph limit would be better to at least allow the truck/suv to continue accelerating all the way through the quarter-mile...sucks to be maxed out for last 100 or so ft of the contest.
Yep, that makes a lot of sense. The tires I'm sure are a huge limiter. Again, 7000lbs, 800+HP...yeah I want some stout, high speed rated tires! AT's probably are going to cut it! I wonder if the 20's, 21's, and 22's all have their own unique limiter MPH's? Or at least AT's vs the other two.

While I agree it would be fun, I think I'm OK with Rivian trying to keep me alive (says the 48 year old me, the inner child disagrees). I'm that nitwit that if it'll go 130, I have to see. When I first got a Model S Plaid in June '21, they were limited to 163MPH and I just had to see. That thing accelerated so hard to 163 that it felt like it hit a wall when it reached the limiter. A soft wall, but it was very noticeable. I'm thinking the R1's would feel the same at their limited MPH.
 

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Yeah like others have said the limiter is probably due to tires and motor stresses. I still think they could juice it up enough to not top out in a standing quarter.
 

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yeah, hard to believe we have to bring up a "limiter" when discussing quarter mile times for a performance vehicle. I wonder if it's due to a cooling limitation.
if it is then THAT should be the "limiter" and until that threshold is reached, let the power go. I believe there were early mentions of R1Ts crossing 130 so there's still top-end left and realistically if it's kicking in "a few car lengths" prior to 1/4 mile you're not gonna put significantly more heat into the entire system over the next 0.2s or so. It would be nice to let these vehicles "breathe" just a little bit more - even a 120 cap seems like it would be a meaningful difference and yet a pretty small increment to unlock.
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