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Hello All,

I tested my NACS adapter at a supercharger. It worked absolutely fine but.. my charge was $8.53 for 7 mins. Isn’t that too expensive? Or is there a flat charge and then we start getting charged? Attached is the image.

thanks for your inputs

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$8.19/16kWh ~ $0.51/kWh Not sure where you are and if there was any tax but seems about average.
THank you - I am new to this. I am thinking in terms of $1/ minute charge - clearly thats not the right way to think about it. If I had to charge for 30 mins or full charge - I'm assuming the cost would be around $30? That's almost like filling a full tank?
 

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THank you - I am new to this. I am thinking in terms of $1/ minute charge - clearly thats not the right way to think about it. If I had to charge for 30 mins or full charge - I'm assuming the cost would be around $30? That's almost like filling a full tank?
Sure, a lot of good threads on this topic but yes DC fast charging is charged by the kWh in most states. Some do charge by the minute based on local laws but usually that is cheaper in my experience.

The charge rate is not going to be constant so it won't necessarily keep that rate vs time. Also other stations may have better rates (for example RAN which is $0.36/kWh).

Bottom line if you want to save money vs gas you need to charge at home where electricity is cheaper (depending on where you live). DCFC is a luxury and costs more.
 
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Sure, a lot of good threads on this topic but yes DC fast charging is charged by the kWh in most states. Some do charge by the minute based on local laws but usually that is cheaper in my experience.

The charge rate is not going to be constant so it won't necessarily keep that rate vs time. Also other stations may have better rates (for example RAN which is $0.36/kWh).

Bottom line if you want to save money vs gas you need to charge at home where electricity is cheaper (depending on where you live). DCFC is a luxury and costs more.
THank you. DO you know any app similar to GasBuddy for Electric chargers that show charging rates?
 

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THank you. DO you know any app similar to GasBuddy for Electric chargers that show charging rates?
PlugShare
ABRP
Tesla App
Rivian App

A lot of great options for that. Some with different information and charging network than others.
 

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THank you - I am new to this. I am thinking in terms of $1/ minute charge - clearly thats not the right way to think about it. If I had to charge for 30 mins or full charge - I'm assuming the cost would be around $30? That's almost like filling a full tank?
You've gotten some excellent info so far, but the best way to think about this is that gallons of gas are most similar to kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity. This is also how your home power usage is billed.

Just like each gas station charges a different amount per gallon, and that amount can change at any time, the same is true for EV charging.

For 100kWh, at $0.51 each, you're still looking at spending way less on a "full" charge than a full tank of gas for a vehicle this size.
 

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I'd like to reiterate a little, it is the same $/mile as a car. Not a large semi luxury suv/pickup truck. People are always making this false comparison. At the time I swapped from my Ram to the Rivian it cost more than $120+ to fill up my truck. For the road trip I take monthly, the cost savings almost pays for the truck payment.

You wouldn't compare a F150 Raptor to a Prius, so why compare the Rivian to a Prius?
 

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If I had to charge for 30 mins or full charge - I'm assuming the cost would be around $30? That's almost like filling a full tank?
Tesla chargers in the Carolina's have been $0.54/kwhr. without a membership, but have only done it twice . If you were goiing from 20% to 80%, expect above $40 at that price. Public charging my R1 is noticeably more than what I would have paid to fuel my previous Outback for the same miles (estimate about $25 at current gas prices-~$3/gal).

I pay ~6.5 cents/kwhr to charge my truck at home though, ie < $5 to go from 20-80% charge, savings which offsets many public charging sessions.
 
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THank you - I am new to this. I am thinking in terms of $1/ minute charge - clearly thats not the right way to think about it. If I had to charge for 30 mins or full charge - I'm assuming the cost would be around $30? That's almost like filling a full tank?
Only certain states can charge by min vs. charge by kwh. But no, $1 per minute is an incorrect way if looking at it.
 

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It's actually quite reasonable for a non-membership rate. Last I checked EA was $0.48 per kilowatt hour. And EVgo $0.69 per kwh ?

If you're going on a road trip and will be charging three to four times, it's worth it to buy the $12.99 membership and initiate the charge through the Tesla app.
 

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No it isn't. Because there is no set "normal" standard. Most Superchargers and other networks charge different rates throughout the 24-hour cycle. Rates depends on the utility that supply the site*, what the property lease costs to each network and what each network feels it must charge to be profitable.

Tesla does charge non-Tesla customers at a higher rate than non-Teslas. But compared to other networks through out that 24-hour cycle, it's on par with the others. If you're going to be charging at Supercharger often, for more than 100-150 kWh per month, worth becoming a member for $12.99/mo to get the ~20% off.

Plus, if the nearby EA has only 6 chargers and a line of cars waiting to charge. And you're at a TSC with 16+ chargers and no waiting line. Ask yourself, what is your time worth?

*Just like electricity for your home. Peak hours are more expensive. Supply & demand.
 

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I just paid $22.50 for 38kwh at a Tesla site in northern AZ on Sunday. That's $0.59/kwh. Phoenix area is even more expensive, especially during peak hours.
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