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So we don't need to worry about vehicle safety if more people get killed in said vehicle than any other one, got it. Let me guess, so long as the vehicle in question is made by your boss Elon.
No, that applies to the other vehicles with high rates of issues also. But you already knew that. You only apply it when it fits your Musk Derangement Syndrome.
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Definitely not a direct causal factor. "Relevant" is always a vague claim which is common in this thread from a few people. You don't have to back anything up if you use vague terms, right?
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Here we go with this causation vs correlation buzzword BS. Are you a fan of that fraud Saladino as well?
 

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No, that applies to the other vehicles with high rates of issues also. But you already knew that. You only apply it when it fits your Musk Derangement Syndrome.
I never said it doesn't apply to other vehicles with sky-high death rates. Tesla has 2 vehicles in the top 5, which is why they are being discussed. You better come up with something better or Elon isn't going to give you your raise this quarter.
 

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Definitely not a direct causal factor. "Relevant" is always a vague claim which is common in this thread from a few people. You don't have to back anything up if you use vague terms, right?
Yet you don’t have anything to back up your opinion that it’s not relevant or a “direct causal factor”, do you? This is a pattern with you.

You already failed to back up your claim that self driving systems are safer than human drivers, so if Tesla’s vehicles have accumulated so many self-driving miles why would the fatality rate be highest in the industry?
 

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Nor do you have anything to back up your vague assertion that it is causal. I've noticed this pattern with you.
 

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Nor do you have anything to back up your vague assertion that it is causal. I've noticed this pattern with you.
The fact that Tesla has two vehicles in the top 5 deadliest backs that up. There are LOTS of cars out there, but the truth is that Tesla is overrepresented in death rates.
 

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Nor do you have anything to back up your vague assertion that it is causal. I've noticed this pattern with you.
There is more evidence to indicate it is than isn't since you have provided literally nothing :CWL:
 

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"But I said so, that's my evidence!"
 

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Tesla makes five vehicles, two of which are in the top 5 deadliest. This means 40% of the vehicles Tesla makes are deadly. What other manufacturer on that list has 40% of their vehicles on the most deadly list?

This is what proof looks like. See how there are studies and numbers. Where are your studies and numbers?
 

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"But I said so, that's my evidence!"
This is what you've been doing the entire time, at least now you've dropped the pretense. I guess that's progress.
 
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Musk Derangement Syndrome is a helluva drug.
Accusing me of bias doesn't get you out of providing proof. Notice how you don't have any, so you just hurdle accusations.
 

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Stating the fact that a singular statistic isn't necessarily causal is not an accusation. Using proper English would help here. You seem to be unable to see how your own vagueness makes your claims meaningless.
 

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"But I said so, that's my evidence!"
You must be referring to yourself because I am referring to the list showing Tesla has the highest fatality rate (which you knew when you posted that).

So please post any evidence you have to support your opinion :like:
 

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