Rivian AEB failure and crash

[mkhuffman]

I can guarantee you that everyone driving around that car was annoyed lol

Why? Every decision it made was safe and reasonable. And so smooth - much smoother than the average human driver.

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[captainjp]

Doesn't the current version require specific hardware that's not available on older Tesla's?

Yes. HW4 is required for this level of autonomy. Currently on the road, roughly half of Tesla’s fleet is on HW3 or lower. Apparently there’s a plan in place to rectify this hardware deficiency for owners who paid the premium for FSD at the time.

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

Why? Every decision it made was safe and reasonable. And so smooth - much smoother than the average human driver.

Because the cars drive in a selfish way. For example, they will drive at 70 in the middle lane leaving 10 car lengths between them and the next car all while people are trying to get around.

Or, it’s rush hour, and the Tesla is driving at 10mph with 10 car lengths between it and the next car, making it very difficult for people to get around it.

Classic example: someone is trying to pull out of a driveway, but a Tesla is on autopilot and blocks it while the Tesla waits at a light. It doesn’t stop a little early to give the person space to pull out. Meanwhile the Tesla driver just stares at the frustrated person instead of taking over and giving space.

That’s why people in the Bay Area hate teslas. They don’t drive with others in mind. They drive with only themselves in mind, annoying everyone around them.

 

[gultin]

Rivian sensors and software are slow in my experience with both Gen1 and Gen2 R1. The rear cross traffic alert often misses people and vehicles and when it does warn me, it is almost always after I've already seen the person or vehicle.

RCTA on my previous 10+ year old Toyota vehicles made it almost seem like the vehicle had a sixth sense. With the Rivian it is the exact opposite, despite them being much newer vehicles. I feel like decentralized compute actually has some real advantages when it comes to latency in safety-based applications.

AEB has been a similar story, with frequent false positives and I can only hope I don't run into a false negative like OP.

I can understand Rivian being behind on ADAS vs Tesla, but not getting RCTA and AEB right (compared to 10+ year old ICE vehicles) make me treat it like a vehicle from 20 years ago, when humans controlled almost everything. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[Doggman]

Gen1/Gen2 R1 doesn't have FCTA. Had it on my Landcruiser. Don't have the Landcruiser anymore (not specifically because of FCTA but it was a factor). My opinion - if Rivian had FCTA there'd be multiple 10 page threads bitching and moaning about what a PIA it is. Like a lot of nanny-ware on modern cars, for every life and/or property saving maneuver there are probably 100's if not 1000's of false alarms. That said it seems like the hardware is there to implement the feature in Gen 2 but I'm fine waiting to see how it rolls out in the R2 first.

Yes, Tesla manages to use it's stack to manage most forward collisions safely but it still mows down the occasional slow moving old lady or broadsides a tractor trailers at highway speeds at a T-intersection - maybe not in the last couple of months but it's happened and the normies don't forget or forgive that shit the way fanboys do.

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