POLL- Should Rivian share driver data without explicit consent?

[R1 EVY]

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[VSG]

Um, did you read the privacy agreement you signed when you purchased? That is you giving consent.

 

[R1 EVY]

Um, did you read the privacy agreement you signed when you purchased? That is you giving consent.

Yes, I did.

However, 1. That consent that was given can be challenged. 2. All consent isn't legal in every state. (I'm checking our state laws.) 3. Awareness and publicity can influence agreement terms.

 

[Riviot]

Data is a major asset for any business nowadays to trade as they see fit. Should we ensure it's anonymized? Of course. Want to see Rivian succeed? Don't disrupt this revenue stream.

 

[R1 EVY]

Data is a major asset for any business nowadays to trade as they see fit. Should we ensure it's anonymized? Of course. Want to see Rivian succeed? Don't disrupt this revenue stream.

I'm 100% in if it's anonymous.

 

[R1Thor]

I'm 100% in if it's anonymous.

It's like how Google uses my data.

If it's anonymous AND benefits me in the long run (improving my experience), then we good. I'll take that exchange for the convenience it brings me.

But there should absolutely be an *easy* way to opt out. AND, there should be an easy way to determine *what* data is being collected. (If it's so much information, ala the Facebook model, that they don't even need to know who I am to figure out...who I am, then it's no longer anonymous even if my name isn't adjacent to the data)

 

[defcon888]

Data is a major asset for any business nowadays to trade as they see fit. Should we ensure it's anonymized? Of course. Want to see Rivian succeed? Don't disrupt this revenue stream.

I agree. They can strip any personal data (name, address, VIN) from the data. I have no problem providing charging habits, maintenance habits, driving....just not any personal information so an insurance company and redline my insurance.

 

[Blueassassin]

If it's anonymous and we can keep the connectivity of the truck truck free so be it. If we have to start paying for the monthly subscription my view then changes.

 

[R1 EVY]

If it's anonymous and we can keep the connectivity of the truck truck free so be it. If we have to start paying for the monthly subscription my view then changes.

That's very reasonable. What if they give it to your insurance company, but it's free?

 

[WorldComposting]

First you need to be able to opt out no matter what. This was a reason why I didn't buy a Tesla as the person that showed us the vehicle seemed very proud when he told us it recorded all conversations and sent them back to Tesla. I never found out if it was true but didn't want that to happen.

Any data that is collected needs to be anonymous especially since you can't guarantee who is driving the vehicle.

 

[R1 EVY]

First you need to be able to opt out no matter what. This was a reason why I didn't buy a Tesla as the person that showed us the vehicle seemed very proud when he told us it recorded all conversations and sent them back to Tesla. I never found out if it was true but didn't want that to happen.

Any data that is collected needs to be anonymous especially since you can't guarantee who is driving the vehicle.

Same

 

[Blueassassin]

That's very reasonable. What if they give it to your insurance company, but it's free?

If Rivian was doing their own insurance and they were using it sure.

I do feel like if they gave out my info and my driving habits I would be getting a lot more tire ads and life insurance too probably.

 

[Steve A.]

I'm 100% in if it's anonymous.

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[Steve A.]

It's like how Google uses my data.

If it's anonymous AND benefits me in the long run (improving my experience), then we good. I'll take that exchange for the convenience it brings me.

But there should absolutely be an *easy* way to opt out. AND, there should be an easy way to determine *what* data is being collected. (If it's so much information, ala the Facebook model, that they don't even need to know who I am to figure out...who I am, then it's no longer anonymous even if my name isn't adjacent to the data)

Google settles $5 billion consumer privacy lawsuit

If you aren't paying for the service, then YOU are the service.

 

[Steve A.]

I agree. They can strip any personal data (name, address, VIN) from the data. I have no problem providing charging habits, maintenance habits, driving....just not any personal information so an insurance company and redline my insurance.

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