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In Feb or March I plan on trading my R1T 2022QM) on either a Dual or Tri Motor. If I want a Dual Max Performance, and I spec it how I want it comes out at almost $97,000. Seems really close to the $100,000 Tri Motor which includes a PTC & Ascent interior. Am I missing something?

Also, in some bad news, I talked to my Rivian employee neighbor yesterday. Never seen him so down. For the first time he mentioned them not surviving. Called the copper supplier issue "beyond stupid". Said when both the supplier and the purchase reps speak english as a second language this can happen. Felt it should have been obvious at several Rivian levels there was an error. Supplier would have had no idea. Plant is running at about 50 percent of capacity. They quit running EDV to help produce passenger vehicles, but then Amazon offered some deal to keep producing EDVs. They normally don't take delivery during the 4th quarter. He didn't know, but was guessing they would take delivery this year to keep numbers up. No chance of fourth quarter positive cash flow. Losing employees all the time to Caterpillar and others.

I hope everything works out, but these are excellent vehicles and somebody will take the brand.
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Once you get on the higher specs it makes more sense to go with Tri Motor unless you specifically want dual. Dual is more efficient in AP mode where tri requires conserve.

Rivian still has a. Lot of cash. The employee sounds more like frustration but it was a huge mistake on Rivian part. With that said this is a tough market even for legacy car makers.

folks simply aren’t buying more expensive vehicles right now. Rivian has really made a name for itself by now..I can’t imagine …in the event they did run out of cash…that another OEM would gobble them up.
 
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Let's not get carried away about what I said. If you don't think Rivian has financial issues...well...you are entitled to your opinion, but obviously have no background in financial analysis.
 

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Depends on if you like the Ascend Interior or not. I priced two out this morning out of curiosity an saw the difference was the $5-7k range....so I can see your quandary here.
 

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In Feb or March I plan on trading my R1T 2022QM) on either a Dual or Tri Motor. If I want a Dual Max Performance, and I spec it how I want it comes out at almost $97,000. Seems really close to the $100,000 Tri Motor which includes a PTC & Ascent interior. Am I missing something?
As others have mentioned, there's more to the tri- than just an extra motor and the extra power. They toss in a bunch of things like premium audio, dynamic glass roof, utility panel, PTC, darkout package, and the ascend interior. If you just want a bump of power and the range of the max battery, the price difference widens to $11k.
 

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In Feb or March I plan on trading my R1T 2022QM) on either a Dual or Tri Motor. If I want a Dual Max Performance, and I spec it how I want it comes out at almost $97,000. Seems really close to the $100,000 Tri Motor which includes a PTC & Ascent interior. Am I missing something?
This was my train of thinking too, and I'm sure it's 100% by design. I honestly only need a dual motor non-performance, and I really value the 420mi in the max pack config. But if you want to spec out any of the more premium features (even non-silver paint counts towards this), the price quickly ratchets up and pretty soon you're like $10k away from a tri-motor that has all of those options included (and if you want the $5k performance package, the tri is actually only $5k more). It's classic upsell tiering. And heck, it worked on me, I decided to go with a Trimax instead of a dual.

And now reading all these stories of woe, I'm starting to understand better how my Fisker-Ocean-owning friend was probably feeling throughout his journey.
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