Rivian R1T vs GMC Hummer EV Comparison Test Review by Motor Trend

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Still got the Blackberry?

This is exactly what I think of and tell others on the hard vs. soft button debate. As much as there’s times I promise I’m going to give Steve Jobs a piece of my mind on the other side for driving us to soft keyboards and touchscreens (as I make and correct dozens of typos on this post that I’d never make on a real keyboard), resistance is futile.

The R1T has its own examples of defying the “hard buttons will only ever have one function” notion, though. The steering wheel buttons, wheels and stalks, for example, have different functions under different contexts. This leads me to thinking hardware vs. software controls was carefully thought out and both options understood.

I’d say maybe they should have added a few more software-defined hard controls but I’m already getting pretty handy with the screen and Alexa to safely get what I want done.

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[zipzag]

This is exactly what I think of and tell others on the hard vs. soft button debate. As much as there’s times I promise I’m going to give Steve Jobs a piece of my mind on the other side for driving us to soft keyboards and touchscreens (as I make and correct dozens of typos on this post that I’d never make on a real keyboard), resistance is futile.

The R1T has its own examples of defying the “hard buttons will only ever have one function” notion, though. The steering wheel buttons, wheels and stalks, for example, have different functions under different contexts. This leads me to thinking hardware vs. software controls was carefully thought out and both options understood.

I’d say maybe they should have added a few more software-defined hard controls but I’m already getting pretty handy with the screen and Alexa to safely get what I want done.

Rivian controls mimic Tesla. Most Tesla physical controls have multiple functions. Rivian has simply implement what is proven to work by two million owners.

 

[fedarga]

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/...up-vs-2022-rivian-r1t-comparison-test-review/

I thank you for the link. It is well versed article when i coupled it with all the videos and chats on this plat form. I hope, Rivian will lower their price in the near future or provide us with more to the increased price if in-fact, they want to reach most American mid income family with the idea to see some sort of environmental impact. It is literally a price of a house in most average income rate of a community unless the intent is for the very few to have it. It was a good read article.

 

[fedarga]

im sure lots of people now that Rivian raised their prices by 20%

It is a whopping price hike!!

 

[fedarga]

Well to be fair you don't know until you try, so I think you're going to have to get punched in the face so you can know for sure.

For science.

Pick Mike Tyson for the punch since he retired, he won't be hard on us.

 

[SeaGeo]

How is 300kw possible in the future? I thought the truck was physically limited to 225kw?

At 450v and 500A it is limited by the charging standard. Rivian confirmed with Kyle that the launch edition does not have the ability to charge at an 800v system by basically splitting the pack during charging.

The truck itself may be able to handle much more current, but the CCS connevtir standard cannot.

However, Rivian could theoretically provide a charger as part of RAN thar enables 600A+ charging. We have no reason to believe that will.

All signs point to MotorTrend misunderstanding Rivian, and Rivian telling them that RAN can output 300kw eventually. And then Rivian not bothering to correct Motortrend on any article. Which drives me nuts.

In the Motortrend article:


They sure are sticking to that statement ?, and then only have themselves as a reference. I trust Kyle from the Out of Spec folks MUCH more (and simple logic).

Technically Kyle just clarified with Rivian that rhe charging switch isn't there. So they both could be right. But my money is on Motortrend being wrong and it the Launch Edition will permanently be limited to 225k or less.

Maybe the max pack will be on an 800v pack? We know they will have that when the dual motor system comes out.

 

[Bobthebuilder352]

To be fair, MT mention early in the article that they conducted this head-to-head experiment in October of 2021. God knows why they waited until now to publish it.

Over the past six months, the tonneau issue has been identified, diagnosed, re-engineered, and the solution deployed. On one of these forums someone quoted a Rivian tech who said the currently-shipping R1T's now have two tonneau motors, not one. Supposedly that solves the problem that kept cropping up through the fall.

i’ll count the motors when I receive my truck (hopefully) by the end of the month. Anyone know what vin this fix started? I’m 28xx

 

[zipzag]

I'm already mad that my future max pack doesn't implement 800v charging.

I prefer to move from mad to pleasantly surprised when good things happen.

I'm not yet putting DCFC engineering guy on my sh*t list with 120V Inverter engineering guy. But perhaps a watch list is appropriate.

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