Kick Turn Dance Moves 🕺🏻

[Electric Rivilution]

Kick Turn helps your Quad pivot like it’s got dance moves. That's the magic of four motors with fully independent torque vectoring.

*Coming to MY26 Quad vehicles in September via software update.

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[Donald Stanfield]

That's a neat way to showcase it. Looks a little like a waltz.

 

[Great Gatsby]

I was trying to explain this to my wife yesterday and the concept just didn't land. She goes "why can't you just turn the wheel?" and I mean, yeah? But this is way cooler.

 

[socaladam]

After observing this video, I realized I’ve been doing this for years using my brakes and letting the diesel engine power over the rear brakes.

The young kids call it drifting.

 

[RivnSoon]

After observing this video, I realized I’ve been doing this for years using my brakes and letting the diesel engine power over the rear brakes.

The young kids call it drifting.

Agreed! I don't see you why wouldn't be able to do this with rwd on loose clay like that. May be not as "waltz"-ful, lol

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Agreed! I don't see you why wouldn't be able to do this with rwd on loose clay like that. May be not as "waltz"-ful, lol

The difference between this and drifting (rally) is this doesn't require higher entry speed (and as much clear space). Rivian has also implied lack of control over the gen1 quad's Bosch motors being a reason. We also don't know if the Bosch motor is strong enough, and can stay cool enough, to deal with the stresses. Ask those who had to have their drive units replaced, and taken into account of the unsettled law suit between Rivian and Bosch... "probably not" is likely a good guess.

 

[ElGuano]

It may look like it in the overhead, but from the hands-on demos I've seen, it seems very easy and controllable to kick-turn on narrow switchbacks, at will, either from a stop or moving forward slowly. I would never try to burn out and e-brake turn in these same situations.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

It may look like it in the overhead, but from the hands-on demos I've seen, it seems very easy and controllable to kick-turn on narrow switchbacks, at will, either from a stop or moving forward slowly. I would never try to burn out and e-brake turn in these same situations.

And observe the amount of dirt being kicked up. If one were to do this on a public trail, where abuse could threaten access for everyone else, you'd be the asshole to everyone else. So, cool, yes. But very limited real-world use.

 

[thrill]

I was trying to explain this to my wife yesterday and the concept just didn't land. She goes "why can't you just turn the wheel?" and I mean, yeah? But this is way cooler.

Not having driven one, but I'd think this could have been implemented with the last bit of the steering wheel turn invoking the kick turn. This would, I'd think, make the turn a little smoother too and any forward momentum is now redirected with less slide slip required. Shrug - I'm probably missing something.

 

[ElGuano]

Agreed, it's pretty damned violent.

Useful in some cases? Sure.. Kind of like burning out to intentionally sideshow? Yeah.

 

[thrill]

Not having driven one, but I'd think this could have been implemented with the last bit of the steering wheel turn invoking the kick turn. This would, I'd think, make the turn a little smoother too and any forward momentum is now redirected with less slide slip required. Shrug - I'm probably missing something.

Edit: thinking about it some more, if viewed from how it would be put to use in a rally mode, it would really aid in having the steering wheel prepositioned for the turn exit and let the kick turn do the hard work of moving the tail around. There, it's darned hard work getting the steering wheel aimed correctly at speed.

 

[ElGuano]

Edit: thinking about it some more, if viewed from how it would be put to use in a rally mode, it would really aid in having the steering wheel prepositioned for the turn exit and let the kick turn do the hard work of moving the tail around. There, it's darned hard work getting the steering wheel aimed correctly at speed.

The way kick turn works, I don't know that you could turn the steering wheel a lot. The inside front/back wheels turn one way, the outside wheels turn the other way. Think of how a tank turns on treads that don't have any pivots.

If you really turned the front wheel, would you kick turn with just the rear wheels? Would that work if your fronts are locked because they're at a different orientation? And if the front wheels are turned but also "kicking" front and back, how would that impact the rotational force of the opposing back wheels?

 

[ndmiller]

Actually a bit disappointed Rivian spent any time or effort on this type of gimmick. And filming a video about dance moves, what a complete waste of money.

Rivian could have spent that time and effort fixing the dozens probably hundreds of well known and documented hardware and software issues with Gen1 and Gen2 vehicles along with QC.

I'm starting to really think twice about R2 as nothing has really changed substantially in QC, break fix or Service Centers with Rivian in the last 2 years.

There's always my reservation with Scout and cue the laughter Slate.

 

[mkhuffman]

This is what I used the hand brake for on pavement when I was in college.

 

[DuoRivians]

So the kick turn would only practically make sense with All Terrain tires right?

Anyone going to do it with staggered Michelins? Haha

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