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I just wanted to share some thoughts after my wife and I (and two dogs) made the 3,200 mile, 5 day trip from Sacramento CA to Warwick RI in our R1T.

We drove roughly 600 miles a day with the exception of 800 on the last day (we stopped for the night in Salt Lake, Denver, Kansas City, and Cincinnati (to visit relatives). We typically drove for 3 hours at a time and then recharged for 35-50 minutes ... repeating until we arrive at that days destination (which typically meant stopping twice a day). We didn't charge at hotels, but instead planned on using nearby fast chargers before ending the day or beginning the next ... typically charging to roughly 95% then. We drove between 65-80 miles per hour ... see second note below on how we chose our speed.

I used A Better Route Planner and Plug Share to plan the trip, and we stopped at about 15 fast chargers on the way with all but two being Electrify America. We had no problems with any chargers until the last day, when we had a problem starting a charging session and had to call EA at one stop. This was also the only day we ran into lines at chargers (twice, 5 min and 35 min waits) and it seems like eastern PA and NJ have this problem.

Things I discovered that I found helpful ...

– I always just plugged the charger into the truck and went to the phone App for the charging company and initiated the charge there. I avoided interacting with any of the screens on the charger's themselves ... when I deviated from this I always ran into glitches.

– The best way IMO to avoid range anxiety is to put the next charger into the Rivian system (in order to get the pre-charge prep on arrival) and then note how many miles you will have when you get there. Watch this number! If its goes down you need to slow down (this happened for us in Kansas with some strong headwinds) and if the number goes up then you can add speed or not need to charge as long at your next stop. This prevents any surprises along the way. BTW, you can't just rely on the efficiency graphic in the truck because you don't know what assumption the software is making for going up and down hill and its effect on your energy without looking at the mileage on arrival.

– The Rivian mapping system does not like you to arrive with less than 50 miles charge, if you want to arrive at a station with less than ~15% charge then you will need to be prepared to tell the truck to proceed without having enough energy ... in our case we always gained mileage as we went, so eventually the truck changed from the warning graphic to a mileage upon arrival. As noted in the previous entry, not having the mileage upon arrival to start with can make determine how efficient you are being difficult to determine, so we always started conservatively on speed until the mileage measurement kicked in.

Thats it, let me know if you any questions.

PS - We had the aero covers on, and also had a camping fridge plugged into the bed's 120V outlet the whole time. R1T, 21" , cover deployed.

edit: Conserve and High Regen
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great write up! Thanks for that.
 

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Great trip - what was your efficiency overall?
 

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I just wanted to share some thoughts after my wife and I (and two dogs) made the 3,200 mile, 5 day trip from Sacramento CA to Warwick RI in our R1T.

We drove roughly 600 miles a day with the exception of 800 on the last day (we stopped for the night in Salt Lake, Denver, Kansas City, and Cincinnati (to visit relatives). We typically drove for 3 hours at a time and then recharged for 35-50 minutes ... repeating until we arrive at that days destination (which typically meant stopping twice a day). We didn't charge at hotels, but instead planned on using nearby fast chargers before ending the day or beginning the next ... typically charging to roughly 95% then. We drove between 65-80 miles per hour ... see second note below on how we chose our speed.

I used A Better Route Planner and Plug Share to plan the trip, and we stopped at about 15 fast chargers on the way with all but two being Electrify America. We had no problems with any chargers until the last day, when we had a problem starting a charging session and had to call EA at one stop. This was also the only day we ran into lines at chargers (twice, 5 min and 35 min waits) and it seems like eastern PA and NJ have this problem.

Things I discovered that I found helpful ...

– I always just plugged the charger into the truck and went to the phone App for the charging company and initiated the charge there. I avoided interacting with any of the screens on the charger's themselves ... when I deviated from this I always ran into glitches.

– The best way IMO to avoid range anxiety is to put the next charger into the Rivian system (in order to get the pre-charge prep on arrival) and then note how many miles you will have when you get there. Watch this number! If its goes down you need to slow down (this happened for us in Kansas with some strong headwinds) and if the number goes up then you can add speed or not need to charge as long at your next stop. This prevents any surprises along the way. BTW, you can't just rely on the efficiency graphic in the truck because you don't know what assumption the software is making for going up and down hill and its effect on your energy without looking at the mileage on arrival.

– The Rivian mapping system does not like you to arrive with less than 50 miles charge, if you want to arrive at a station with less than ~15% charge then you will need to be prepared to tell the truck to proceed without having enough energy ... in our case we always gained mileage as we went, so eventually the truck changed from the warning graphic to a mileage upon arrival. As noted in the previous entry, not having the mileage upon arrival to start with can make determine how efficient you are being difficult to determine, so we always started conservatively on speed until the mileage measurement kicked in.

Thats it, let me know if you any questions.

PS - We had the aero covers on, and also had a camping fridge plugged into the bed's 120V outlet the whole time. R1T, 21" , cover deployed.
2.39 is a very decent average for the trip! I got really jealous when I read that the cover was deployed. There's two kinds of power covers: broken ones and those that *WILL* break.
 

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Great write up! It will be nice to be able to select a SOC on arrival to chargers for trip planning. I’m good going down low if there other chargers close by.
 

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I just wanted to share some thoughts after my wife and I (and two dogs) made the 3,200 mile, 5 day trip from Sacramento CA to Warwick RI in our R1T.

We drove roughly 600 miles a day with the exception of 800 on the last day (we stopped for the night in Salt Lake, Denver, Kansas City, and Cincinnati (to visit relatives). We typically drove for 3 hours at a time and then recharged for 35-50 minutes ... repeating until we arrive at that days destination (which typically meant stopping twice a day). We didn't charge at hotels, but instead planned on using nearby fast chargers before ending the day or beginning the next ... typically charging to roughly 95% then. We drove between 65-80 miles per hour ... see second note below on how we chose our speed.

I used A Better Route Planner and Plug Share to plan the trip, and we stopped at about 15 fast chargers on the way with all but two being Electrify America. We had no problems with any chargers until the last day, when we had a problem starting a charging session and had to call EA at one stop. This was also the only day we ran into lines at chargers (twice, 5 min and 35 min waits) and it seems like eastern PA and NJ have this problem.

Things I discovered that I found helpful ...

– I always just plugged the charger into the truck and went to the phone App for the charging company and initiated the charge there. I avoided interacting with any of the screens on the charger's themselves ... when I deviated from this I always ran into glitches.

– The best way IMO to avoid range anxiety is to put the next charger into the Rivian system (in order to get the pre-charge prep on arrival) and then note how many miles you will have when you get there. Watch this number! If its goes down you need to slow down (this happened for us in Kansas with some strong headwinds) and if the number goes up then you can add speed or not need to charge as long at your next stop. This prevents any surprises along the way. BTW, you can't just rely on the efficiency graphic in the truck because you don't know what assumption the software is making for going up and down hill and its effect on your energy without looking at the mileage on arrival.

– The Rivian mapping system does not like you to arrive with less than 50 miles charge, if you want to arrive at a station with less than ~15% charge then you will need to be prepared to tell the truck to proceed without having enough energy ... in our case we always gained mileage as we went, so eventually the truck changed from the warning graphic to a mileage upon arrival. As noted in the previous entry, not having the mileage upon arrival to start with can make determine how efficient you are being difficult to determine, so we always started conservatively on speed until the mileage measurement kicked in.

Thats it, let me know if you any questions.

PS - We had the aero covers on, and also had a camping fridge plugged into the bed's 120V outlet the whole time. R1T, 21" , cover deployed.
Any chance you kept track of all your charging stops and would have that available? I am doing Denver to the MA/RI border next weekend. Would be super helpful to know the good and bad stations you visited. Thanks for sharing your experience, I am trying to do it in roughly the same amount of time and this made me feel like it’s doable.
 
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Any chance you kept track of all your charging stops and would have that available? I am doing Denver to the MA/RI border next weekend. Would be super helpful to know the good and bad stations you visited. Thanks for sharing your experience, I am trying to do it in roughly the same amount of time and this made me feel like it’s doable.
I think I can share my ABRP maps. All our stops were rated 10 with a few 9s on PlugShare. We also checked stops for the next day the night before. I’d say 99% of the time the worst thing that can happen is the chargers are slower than expected … I don’t think you have to worry about a whole bank being out. So it is more about how long it will take to charge than being stuck.
 

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I think I can share my ABRP maps. All our stops were rated 10 with a few 9s on PlugShare. We also checked stops for the next day the night before. I’d say 99% of the time the worst thing that can happen is the chargers are slower than expected … I don’t think you have to worry about a whole bank being out. So it is more about how long it will take to charge than being stuck.
If you could share that would be great. Charge times is my greatest concern, just due to being on a tighter timeline than I would like.
 

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what happened when you called elecrrify america did they solve the charging issue?
 

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I just wanted to share some thoughts after my wife and I (and two dogs) made the 3,200 mile, 5 day trip from Sacramento CA to Warwick RI in our R1T.

We drove roughly 600 miles a day with the exception of 800 on the last day (we stopped for the night in Salt Lake, Denver, Kansas City, and Cincinnati (to visit relatives). We typically drove for 3 hours at a time and then recharged for 35-50 minutes ... repeating until we arrive at that days destination (which typically meant stopping twice a day). We didn't charge at hotels, but instead planned on using nearby fast chargers before ending the day or beginning the next ... typically charging to roughly 95% then. We drove between 65-80 miles per hour ... see second note below on how we chose our speed.

I used A Better Route Planner and Plug Share to plan the trip, and we stopped at about 15 fast chargers on the way with all but two being Electrify America. We had no problems with any chargers until the last day, when we had a problem starting a charging session and had to call EA at one stop. This was also the only day we ran into lines at chargers (twice, 5 min and 35 min waits) and it seems like eastern PA and NJ have this problem.

Things I discovered that I found helpful ...

– I always just plugged the charger into the truck and went to the phone App for the charging company and initiated the charge there. I avoided interacting with any of the screens on the charger's themselves ... when I deviated from this I always ran into glitches.

– The best way IMO to avoid range anxiety is to put the next charger into the Rivian system (in order to get the pre-charge prep on arrival) and then note how many miles you will have when you get there. Watch this number! If its goes down you need to slow down (this happened for us in Kansas with some strong headwinds) and if the number goes up then you can add speed or not need to charge as long at your next stop. This prevents any surprises along the way. BTW, you can't just rely on the efficiency graphic in the truck because you don't know what assumption the software is making for going up and down hill and its effect on your energy without looking at the mileage on arrival.

– The Rivian mapping system does not like you to arrive with less than 50 miles charge, if you want to arrive at a station with less than ~15% charge then you will need to be prepared to tell the truck to proceed without having enough energy ... in our case we always gained mileage as we went, so eventually the truck changed from the warning graphic to a mileage upon arrival. As noted in the previous entry, not having the mileage upon arrival to start with can make determine how efficient you are being difficult to determine, so we always started conservatively on speed until the mileage measurement kicked in.

Thats it, let me know if you any questions.

PS - We had the aero covers on, and also had a camping fridge plugged into the bed's 120V outlet the whole time. R1T, 21" , cover deployed.
Could you please tell us what route you took. From Sacramento you probably started on I80 but at some point dropped down to I70 if you went through Kansas.
 
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If you could share that would be great. Charge times is my greatest concern, just due to being on a tighter timeline than I would like.
I’ll have some free time this afternoon, I‘ll definitely post something.
 
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what happened when you called elecrrify america did they solve the charging issue?
This was our only problem stop … it was in Belle Vernon PA. We showed up and all 4 stations were taken. After 35 minutes one opened up, and I immediately pulled in. The EA app was showing the station still in use so I tried using the display on the station (which I avoid doing typically) and it said the session was starting but it never did. After a few tries I called the help line (awful reception there) and they started the station remotely.

My wife and I started a conversation with the people next to us, and after about 20 minutes I noticed the station had become really slow (I think 50kW) … the people we were talking to left, so I moved to their station, started it with the App as normal, and was pulling 190+KW … and it went fine … but the whole stop probably took us an hour and a half.
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