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  1. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    Then we disagree legally. I would agree that it's not as slam-dunk as a restriction on sale, but as I said, I don't see a court robbing a consumer of gains on their product. If this was a dealer doing multiple markup resales, perhaps. It doesn't begin to account for the scenarios I've suggested...
  2. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    Not going to fly. ROFR would be fine if it's at the offer price (i.e., what someone in the free market is willing to pay). A court is not going to rob a consumer of the appreciation of their good.
  3. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    That is an interesting detail, as essentially you're getting into resellers versus consumers. That could pass muster.
  4. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    What's crazy to me is that several of you are arguing to restrict your rights as consumers. No disrespect, but are you brainwashed? This is a company selling you a product for your hard-earned cash. It just walked back (after huge backlash) a move to screw you. But you're not satisfied and...
  5. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    Is this list public? I'd like to get my hands on it as I feel this would make for a nice class-action suit against GM.
  6. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    Not sure why you're a proponent of this restriction on trade. People should be able to freely trade their goods. What happens if there's a cataclysmic event that causers hyper inflation and your Rivian is worth $500k and you need the money. Rivian is going to go to court to stop you from...
  7. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    The Ford GT was not a mass-consumer vehicle and who knows what the settlement was. Good luck enforcing this. I know a half dozen judges who'd throw the case out.
  8. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    That's not what the original post contemplated. But such a black-balling clause would also be difficult to enforce. And practically speaking, how do you police for this? Anyone proposing these clauses needs to drop it.
  9. Rivian Needs a No Re-Sale Clause Now

    Such a clause is arguably illegal and unenforceable. What if a buyer suffers a financial mishap? You're going to make them go bankrupt because they can't sell their $100k truck? Please don't say it would be handled on a case-by-case basis. The law doesn't not look kindly upon such restraints of...
  10. R1T & R1S Updated Pricing, Configuration, Specs. Dual Motor Now Available

    I had doubts the R1S is going to fulfill my needs, but this is the final straw. No way I'm paying 20% more. I can't believe they didn't extend the courtesy of even a modest discount to reservation holders. This is just another grifter tech bro company where the insiders manipulated the narrative...
  11. Rivian technical nuggets gleaned from EPA application docs

    Where are you seeing the adjusted range? I see the 357.28, but can't find the adjusted.
  12. Rivian patents a sliding door feature / design - for future Rivian van?

    Yes, yes, YES! I am very skeptical the R1S has the interior volume I need, but I would be thrilled to covert my order to a Rivian minivan.
  13. ? Official EPA Range and MPGe Numbers for R1T & R1S

    This is a tall truck, not a crappy tent- built tall sedan. There’s no way around physics. The efficiency is impressive for what it is.
  14. R1S XL?

    This is what I'm talking about! Rivian, please make it happen.
  15. R1S XL?

    There are definitely quite a few egocentric / ideology based comments (big = bad). There's no doubt in my mind that eventually someone is going to make a large 3-row SUV. Once Ford and GM start rolling out their full-size EV pickups, a spinoff into Tahoe / Suburban / Expedition will be easy...
  16. R1S XL?

    I'm not sure why so many on this forum seem to think there's no market for an XL R1S. I live in an upper middle class Northeast suburb, and my town along with all of the neighboring towns are littered with Suburbans, 2021 Tahoes, Expeditions, etc. This is a sizable and lucrative market, not the...
  17. R1S XL?

    I suggested this, as a wheelbase stretch would be simple given they're making the R1T. Given the interior space is looking significantly tighter than I expected, it's likely critical for me to convert my reservation. In any case, despite suggesting that it could be a lucrative option to Rivian...
  18. Front Leg and Headroom

    Agreed. The Shaq move was a publicity gimmick, and it worked. Can't tell you how many times I've seen someone raise it in response to a concern about interior room. But all of these EV companies are pulling every marketing trick in the book to build hype. I'm still hopeful (hence my deposit)...
  19. Front Leg and Headroom

    I will definitely take a test drive before taking delivery. But I am concerned. Overall for the size of this vehicle, the interior space seems quite tight. Contrary to all the hype about the space efficiency of an EV platform, I suspect the opposite is true. In reality, sitting atop a large...





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