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I have a July 2021 deposit and my delivery estimate is January - December 2024. Rivian are a bunch of clowns. This truck is going to be outdated by then.

I think you're completely right. I didn't mean to say YOU were "defending" the R1S (addressing mkg3's post), I've just seen others doing so. There's some weird brand loyalty with this thing, which I always find odd, particularly for a new product.

Difficult to say, as I am not an auto engineer and haven't even been able to physically see the vehicle. It's fairly obvious that some of the space inefficiency is because they built a very tall and robust frame, one that's likely sufficient for extreme off-roading but unnecessary for a majority...

Frunk I will give you, but a Hyundai Palisade / Kia Telluride (195") and Volkswagen Atlas (200") manage to pack more than the Rivian's 17 cu ft behind the third row (all over 20 cu ft). The all also have more space in the 2nd and 3rd rows for passengers. So maybe it's not an allocation issue, eh?

If I recall, Doug DeMuro described the rear legroom as acceptable, but not great. That's a disappointment for a 200" SUV claiming to have packaging advantages.

Businesses choose to sell products at a loss all of the time. It could be to gain or preserve market share, it could be that selling a product at a loss increases volume such that it makes it viable to keep a factory running. There are many potential reasons.

Your post is riddled with falsehoods. There's a chance the hideous and comical Cybertruck is never actually produced. The specs will be vastly inferior to what Musk advertised. And the likelihood of Tesla making money is low. Good luck with your dreams.

Tesla is absolutely NOT in a position to make a profit on Cybertruck. If they ever produce it, they will have competition from the Ford F-150 Lightning, Rivian and both Chevy Silverado and Ram EVs. The competition will dictate the pricing. And they need volume to make a production line...

Chinese made suspension links are disappointing...

Ooh, that sounds really cool. Do you know where I can find the photoshop?

It's going to be somewhat tighter than a Suburban as it's quite a bit shorter overall, but as you say, having the 3rd row over the rear axle imposes unavoidable limitations. I've argued for this, but just as Chevy stretches the Tahoe to make the Suburban, I'd love to see Rivian stretch the R1S...

I feel for anyone that gets hit by a 7200 lb Rivian. The truck will be replaced, lives cannot.

Looks like a Rivian t-boned a Subaru?

It's not necessarily accurate, but it's a useful gauge. The difference looks significant to me, and also helps to explain the difference he finds in measuring the edge of the cushion to the front seatback. His knees look to have approximately the same distance to me.

Actually, I'm just noticing that the rear seat cushion looks shorter in the R1S than the R1T. Look at the guy's shorts. At 22:17 his shorts are hanging about 2 inches over past the end of the lower cushion. At 23:04, in the R1T, his shorts end about 2 inches before the end of the lower cushion.

I know many of us have been wondering whether the R1S has more rear seat legroom than the R1T on account of the sliding rear seat. The video below at 22:07 compares the two and finds that the R1S has 3 inches more legroom!

I cannot understand why you want to curtail your rights while accepting downside risk in some misguided attempt to protect Rivian. An individual buying a Rivian, deciding for WHATEVER reason they do that they no longer want it and potentially reselling for a profit does not harm Rivian in any way.

Not sure what kind of emotional connection you develop with your vehicle or its manufacturer, but being able to freely trade the things you buy with cash a fairly basic right. It's not like Rivian is looking out for you and provides downside risk protection should the price crater because of...

They could certainly do that, but this is another lawsuit and looks awful for Rivian from a PR standpoint. Maybe Rivian should just focus on its business of producing and selling vehicles and not worry about the resale market. I understand not selling into a reseller arrangement, but they...

The number of people who want to shoot their own feet is ridiculous.