Mobile Charger for the R2 for trips with a NEMA 1450 available

[Thebandit]

Of course there are. Aside from Rivian RAN, I find most of the CCS1 charging locations to be less than ideal.

I always prefer Tesla SC over all the others as there are more stations, and more charging terminal per station than anyone else. AND the reliability of the charging terminal is exceptional. I know it happens but I have never experienced any charging terminal being down at Tesla SC. In the past, before Rivian became NACS partner, I used to use EA and it was $hit show to say the least.

If I was in OPs shoes, I would not bother with CCS1 to NACS adapter. The J1772 to NACS is much more useful for destination charger which by definition is L2.

I am certain that 99.9% of Tesla owners, including myself, do not travel with CCS1 to NACS adapter. I do have NACS to CCS1 adapter for my R1S and use it at the Tesla SC 99% of the time. The other 1% at RAN.

You do you, but RAN, Ionna, Applegreen, Chargepoint, EVGo, and lots of others have tons of CCS1 stations. Just seems silly to cut yourself off from that over a $159 adapter.

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[SwampNut]

It might depend on your area. Where I travel, which has been all of AZ, to Vegas, San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco area, the Superchargers are everywhere and work perfectly, and cost less than all others. I've had at least a 50% issue rate with all the others except RAN, and around 10% total failure. I doubt I will ever bother with a non-Tesla DC charger ever again.

I do occasionally use a destination charger (AC) so that $45 adapter is valuable.

 

[mkg3]

You do you, but RAN, Ionna, Applegreen, Chargepoint, EVGo, and lots of others have tons of CCS1 stations. Just seems silly to cut yourself off from that over a $159 adapter.

We really are not communicating. Oh well.

Not the cost of adapter. It's the time involved having to wait for charger to open up and/or finding out that the charging terminal is out of order. Never experienced either at any Tesla SC; hence, its my preferred stop on the road trips.

I charge overnight when home so never need DCFC unless no the road trip.

 

[VSG]

@mkg3
It's just really bad advice to tell people not to buy and carry a CCS adapter. Regardless of your opinions and experience with the Tesla network and the various CCS networks.

There are more location in this country with CCS chargers than there are with Tesla chargers.

There are still vast regions of this country where there are no Tesla chargers open to non-Tesla vehicles. There are still many places where Tesla chargers are not the cheapest option or the most convenient location.

Deliberately limiting your choices and cutting yourself off from half the public DCFC locations in this country is just stupid.

 

[SwampNut]

Not the cost of adapter. It's the time involved having to wait for charger to open up and/or finding out that the charging terminal is out of order. Never experienced either at any Tesla SC; hence, its my preferred stop on the road trips.

Yup, this right here. SO MUCH wasted time with lesser chargers. Even having to backtrack on a trip. It's been at least two years since I used a non-Tesla charger, so I personally wouldn't bother with an adapter if my car had NACS.

 

[mkg3]

@mkg3
It's just really bad advice to tell people not to buy and carry a CCS adapter. Regardless of your opinions and experience with the Tesla network and the various CCS networks.

Never said not to buy and carry an adapter. I simply shared my experience and made a practical comment that I would not bother. Clearly we have different risk tolerance and understanding about EV range and charging infrastructure today. People can buy and carry whatever they wish.

There are more location in this country with CCS chargers than there are with Tesla chargers.

In terms of number of station, yes but from any given road trip, one also depends on working charging stalls. In many cases, non-Tesla charging stations have few charging stalls and worse, many non-functional stalls. Like any road trip, some advance planning is recommended, especially combining nature/meal breaks with charging stops. That said, according to US News, there are 33,000 charging stalls at the Tesla charging station while the next closest is EA with 5,100. ChargePoint focuses mostly on L2 and some DCFC.
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/advice/ev-charging-stations

There are still vast regions of this country where there are no Tesla chargers open to non-Tesla vehicles. There are still many places where Tesla chargers are not the cheapest option or the most convenient location.

The map below is where all the NACS partner Tesla SC locations in US. Darker red spots have concentration of their charging stations. Where there are charging desert (Montana, Dekotas, Wyoming), other EV charging stations are worse in numbers.

As for the cost, including the monthly membership ($12.99) that can be added and cancelled anytime - which I do so only when I am on the road trip - per kW cost is less than RAN and similar to EA with membership. The difference is marginal and the convenience is unparalleled.

From practical use perspective,, it can be misleading to say that there are more non-Tesla SC, especially when many of other companies charging stations are offline or non-functional.

https://www.tesla.com/findus?bounds...403,-129.650072275&filters=nacs_superchargers

Deliberately limiting your choices and cutting yourself off from half the public DCFC locations in this country is just stupid.

Agree. Never said to limit the option. I just would not bother with others when their track record is poor and actual availability is much worse than Tesla SC.

YMMV....

 

[LuvDog]

I’m glad I have a CCS to NACS adapter because on my recent trip to Vermont the RAN station that my nav routed me to was all CCS

 

[Mos Eisley]

Does anyone have this?

Grizzl-E MINI Connect Portable Charger

NACS Version

It's out of stock as I am finding with similar devices from a few other makers, though Grizzl-E told me yesterday it should be available soon.

I already have the A2Z J1772 Charger To NACS Vehicle | AC | UL2252/CSA-C22.2 Certified | The Atom Adapter and the A2Z CCS1 Charger To NACS Vehicle | DC | Compatible with Tesla Vehicles & NACS vehicles | UL2252/CSA-C22.2 Certified | The Thunderstorm Adapter with which -I think- having something like the Grizzl-E I'd have every potential charging situation covered?

I will be making a trip to my parents a few times a year and they are 50 miles away from any kind of fast charger at the end of a 600 mile drive. I won't buy Tesla hardware but I know I'll have to use their chargers on this trip as ABRP and the Rivian app show that they're the only practical options on the two routes I can take.

 

[Thebandit]

Does anyone have this?

Grizzl-E MINI Connect Portable Charger

NACS Version

It's out of stock as I am finding with similar devices from a few other makers, though Grizzl-E told me yesterday it should be available soon.

I already have the A2Z J1772 Charger To NACS Vehicle | AC | UL2252/CSA-C22.2 Certified | The Atom Adapter and the A2Z CCS1 Charger To NACS Vehicle | DC | Compatible with Tesla Vehicles & NACS vehicles | UL2252/CSA-C22.2 Certified | The Thunderstorm Adapter with which -I think- having something like the Grizzl-E I'd have every potential charging situation covered?

I will be making a trip to my parents a few times a year and they are 50 miles away from any kind of fast charger at the end of a 600 mile drive. I won't buy Tesla hardware but I know I'll have to use their chargers on this trip as ABRP and the Rivian app show that they're the only practical options on the two routes I can take.

That Grizzl-E is pretty overpriced IMO. The Tesla mobile charger is $300 and is better. Lectron has similar units if you refuse to buy Tesla.

 

[Mos Eisley]

That Grizzl-E is pretty overpriced IMO. The Tesla mobile charger is $300 and is better. Lectron has similar units if you refuse to buy Tesla.

Thx for the reply - other than price, Tesla is better how? I hadn't checked Lectron since Saturday but several were also out of stock. As of this morning, stock looks back in. Which one would you recommend? I'd been looking at this one.

 

[Thebandit]

Thx for the reply - other than price, Tesla is better how? I hadn't checked Lectron since Saturday but several were also out of stock. As of this morning, stock looks back in. Which one would you recommend?

It's better because the different adapters automatically limit charging current. You slap the 6-20 adapter on there and it automatically sets the max current to 16 amps. The Grizzle-E seems to have no such protection at all and requires you to either change internal dip switches or limit current via your car, leading to situation where you can accidentally try to draw 40 amps from a 15 amp circuit.

 

[Thebandit]

Also, the upcoming A2Z Nebula looks like a good Tesla alternative. It's coming soon. It has a similar swappable plug setup and comes with several adapters for $350.

 

[Mos Eisley]

Also, the upcoming A2Z Nebula looks like a good Tesla alternative. It's coming soon. It has a similar swappable plug setup and comes with several adapters for $350.

thx. Was just looking at that too.

 

[Mos Eisley]

Went ahead and pre-ordered the A2Z Nebula Mini. Might get it before end of August.

 

[KBabione]

Went ahead and pre-ordered the A2Z Nebula Mini. Might get it before end of August.

Since the Rivian portable charger came with our R1S, I wasn't going to buy another portable charger for our R2, but the A2Z EV Nebula looks like a great option so I might pull the plug on that when we get our R2.

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