Is Rivian updating the online configurator for the R1S? NACS?

[carsly]

I did notice shipping times have switched to 8-12 weeks for quite a few options/configs.

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[dn325ci]

Hmm. I'm a new member here coming strictly for information on when NACS is coming to Rivian R1. I'm a Tesla owner with many Tesla destination chargers in my life at home and work. We tend to keep vehicles a long time either in our household or in our business, we drive a lot of miles, and I refuse to forever be using an adapter every day. It's a barrier to entry for us with a Rivian. Would be nice to see NACS soon.

 

[carsly]

Hmm. I'm a new member here coming strictly for information on when NACS is coming to Rivian R1. I'm a Tesla owner with many Tesla destination chargers in my life at home and work. We tend to keep vehicles a long time either in our household or in our business, we drive a lot of miles, and I refuse to forever be using an adapter every day. It's a barrier to entry for us with a Rivian. Would be nice to see NACS soon.

Similar situation, have had a reservation for 2+ years awaiting the switch to NACS. No interest in #adapterlife

That said, I did install a tesla universal wall charger and have a second awaiting installation - just in case my will weakens. So far have been holding strong.

 

[SANZC02]

Hmm. I'm a new member here coming strictly for information on when NACS is coming to Rivian R1. I'm a Tesla owner with many Tesla destination chargers in my life at home and work. We tend to keep vehicles a long time either in our household or in our business, we drive a lot of miles, and I refuse to forever be using an adapter every day. It's a barrier to entry for us with a Rivian. Would be nice to see NACS soon.

You may want to rethink that position.

The native NACS port will not open the Supercharger network to the V1/V2 stations so you still only have access to about half of the SC network.

That would require an adapter for any of the other networks that only have CCS connectors.

If you do not have access to home charging and a NACS compatible SC is close to you then might be a benefit but otherwise no real benefit to the native NACS port.

 

[dn325ci]

You may want to rethink that position.

The native NACS port will not open the Supercharger network to the V1/V2 stations so you still only have access to about half of the SC network.

That would require an adapter for any of the other networks that only have CCS connectors.

If you do not have access to home charging and a NACS compatible SC is close to you then might be a benefit but otherwise no real benefit to the native NACS port.

You may want to re-read my position. I have considerable investments in Tesla destination chargers. I'm not going to re-invest nor use an adapter forever. I'll wait or buy something else.

 

[tjrivian]

Similar situation, have had a reservation for 2+ years awaiting the switch to NACS. No interest in #adapterlife

That said, I did install a tesla universal wall charger and have a second awaiting installation - just in case my will weakens. So far have been holding strong.

This is an odd position to take. I used to own a Tesla and always carried the J1772 -> NACS adapter since there were WAY more J1772 L2 chargers around than there were Tesla destination chargers. And now that I own a Rivian I carry the NACS -> CCS adapter. I understand why people hate carrying little tiny adapters like usb-a to usb-c for their computer - because they're tiny and easy to lose. The J1772/CCS/NACS adapters are sufficient size that you can just stick them in a door pocket and never lose them, but not so big that they take up a significant amount of cargo space. As noted above, even with a native NACS port, you're going to likely want to carry a CCS -> NACS adapter due to the fact that MANY Tesla supercharger sites aren't usable. To each their own, but IMHO refusing to buy a car you otherwise want because it requires you to buy and carry a $100 adapter is strange to me.

 

[carsly]

This is an odd position to take. I used to own a Tesla and always carried the J1772 -> NACS adapter since there were WAY more J1772 L2 chargers around than there were Tesla destination chargers. And now that I own a Rivian I carry the NACS -> CCS adapter. I understand why people hate carrying little tiny adapters like usb-a to usb-c for their computer - because they're tiny and easy to lose. The J1772/CCS/NACS adapters are sufficient size that you can just stick them in a door pocket and never lose them, but not so big that they take up a significant amount of cargo space. As noted above, even with a native NACS port, you're going to likely want to carry a CCS -> NACS adapter due to the fact that MANY Tesla supercharger sites aren't usable. To each their own, but IMHO refusing to buy a car you otherwise want because it requires you to buy and carry a $100 adapter is strange to me.

No need to label other people's preferences that are different from your own as 'strange'.

It's 2025, adapters are a relic. The standards war was fought and won so we won't have to carry adapters, regardless of size or type. As for all those CCS DCFC, at least in the northeast a lot of them don't work and you'll see more and more handles converting to NACS as the NACS-capable vehicle fleet continues to expand. And near me there are more v3 superchargers than v1 or v2 with 5x more v3 and now v4 being built today than CCS - which has has zero new installs in two+ years within 50 miles of me. So I guess that's actually infinitely more NACS handles due to the dividing by zero on CCS "growth".

I'm sure there are still ChADeMo fans out there as well, I salute you and your many-dongled life choices. I also don't carry a headphone jack to USB-C dongle. or USB-C to USB-A dongle. That's just not for me. Simplicity wins 10/10.

 

[ElGuano]

I get it. Being able to consolidate all charging to Tesla is a great simplifying principle, especially for households that already have Teslas. Those who go to CCS fast chargers will point out the lack of flexibility and choice, but driving our Teslas, we've never felt the need to hit either a V1/V2 station or a 3rd party DC station. You can not only get by with just superchargers, it's very easy to do so. So making it easier to live that life makes sense, even if others feel it's a trivial pain point to slap on an adapter.

For me, the real pain point is hitting a crowded supercharger, and having to take two spots due to the charge port location. Doubly so if you are at a SC that has a queue, and must take one spot, and then NOT CHARGE in it while you sit and wait for the guy on your left to leave, just so you can prevent the next guy in line from moving in to the empty spot next to you.

 

[Jonger1150]

Similar situation, have had a reservation for 2+ years awaiting the switch to NACS. No interest in #adapterlife

That said, I did install a tesla universal wall charger and have a second awaiting installation - just in case my will weakens. So far have been holding strong.

I was originally opposed to the adapter, but after using it and then charging CCS at home -- it's not a big deal. The bigger issue is where the port is on the vehicle. I wish all vehicles were front left, it's just better. Tesla's rear port sucks after you work with front left.

 

[vandy1981]

This could also explain the new incentives they've added to in-stock vehicles. Maybe they're trying to clear out inventory before NACS lands?

 

[carsly]

Tesla's rear port sucks after you work with front left.

meh, prefer to reverse into a charger so I can see what's happening around me while charging and keeping all the pedestals out of harm's way at the edge of a lot rather than in between spaces is safer and easier to navigate.

I don't agree with everything Tesla does, I'd rather have a driver's display for example, but in this case driver's side rear for a charge port makes a lot of sense.

 

[ElGuano]

meh, prefer to reverse into a charger so I can see what's happening around me while charging and keeping all the pedestals out of harm's way at the edge of a lot rather than in between spaces is safer and easier to navigate.

I don't agree with everything Tesla does, I'd rather have a driver's display for example, but in this case driver's side rear for a charge port makes a lot of sense.

Just my $0.02, this is something that can be a win-win. Car makers that like pull-in can put it on the passenger front. Makers who like back-in can put it on the driver back. Both work fine for every charging station.

And eventually most V3+ SCs will move to longer cables and it won't be an issues anymore. But I haven't seen any compelling reason why it MUST be on driver-front or passenger-rear...

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