Regardless of misreading rivian's actual statements here, I don't get why you'd want a NACS port right now. Tons of superchargers still aren't available for non-Tesla vehicles. Tesla has shown time and time again they don't really care about non-Tesla charging experiences. They can't even produce the adaptors they committed to producing years ago.Didn't Rivian say native NACS ports will be standard on Rivian's in 2025? Does that mean for all vehicles produced beginning Jan 1, 2025 or simply sometime in 2025? Does anyone have any info or heard any rumors?
This is true, no real benefit as people will still only have access to the NACS compatible superchargers. It does not magically open the entire Supercharger network to those vehicles.
This is how I feel. I see a LOT of risk to moving to NACS and being beholden to whatever Tesla demands, and still having to bring adaptors everywhere. CCS w/ NACS access is way better to me than NACS w/ CCS adaptor.
The terminology they used was "Starting in 2025". So any date in 2025 is valid for that to be correct. Don't get your hopes up, they may not update the R1's with a nacs port until R2 comes out late next year/early 2026. Or they might just before the R2 comes out. Anything is possible and nobody currently knows that answer here.Didn't Rivian say native NACS ports will be standard on Rivian's in 2025? Does that mean for all vehicles produced beginning Jan 1, 2025 or simply sometime in 2025? Does anyone have any info or heard any rumors?
It doesn't really change anything from the current situation, you can always use a ccs -> nacs adapter to charge at EA/Rivian stations like you can now in reverse at tesla. Even if Rivian doesn't supply an adapter at launch you can always purchase one from Tesla/Third Parties like A2Z, ect.
I would be surprised if R2 comes out in 2026, though I would love to be wrong.
My guess is they launch R2's in 2025 just like they launched R1's in "2021". Employee deliveries in nov/dec and customer deliveries in dec/jan.
It still matters quite a bit, I fear. Do you think Tesla is going to have 0% stake in producing those NACS ports? How long until Tesla decides to limit the production of NACS ports (just like they've done for adaptors) to put the squeeze on competitors? When the federal subsidies for opening up charger networks dry up, what incentive does Tesla have to allow other vehicles to charge at superchargers regardless of NACS or CCS port?
I'm pretty sure Rivan has said that they will be making the port themselves. I mean the specs on how to make them are public now. No reason for Rivian to have to purchase them from Tesla.
Sure, but it's quite easy to imagine a world where a very specific component or the exact kind of contactor required to make the NACS AC/DC switchover work is constrained by Tesla deliberately. Whether they produce it or not, if they use the same suppliers they could easily squeeze them with contracts to affect competitors.
