Is Rivian’s A.I. All Locked Down?

[kylealden]

The short answer is Rivian doesn't seem currently interested in pursuing "full self driving", and shouldn't be.

The Gen1 vehicles use MobileEye licensed solutions and have no in-house AI to speak of. From RJ's statements (and the hardware evidence), Gen2 is/will be running on something much more like Tesla's in-market models, which does involve some amount of in-house training.

But the scale won't be at Tesla's scale (by virtue of not chasing an Elonian fever dream of full self driving robotaxis); and there's no lunatic at the helm laundering his hobbies across various companies with poor governance, unlike Tesla/xAI/SpaceX/etc.

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[ThirteenElectrics]

Rivian's software is so bad I don't expect them to do anything meaningful in AI. Maybe they will license something from Volvo or Mobileye.

 

[godfodder0901]

Rivian's software is so bad I don't expect them to do anything meaningful in AI. Maybe they will license something from Volvo or Mobileye.

They already use MobilEye... That's why Diver+ sucks so bad right now...

 

[CharonPDX]

They already use MobilEye... That's why Diver+ sucks so bad right now...

Yeah, from one of the recent interviews, it sounds like they thought they could implement their own software on the previous MobilEye platform; but can't, so Driver+ on Gen1 is stuck where it is. It's unclear if Gen2's "Rivian Autonomy Platform" will actually do more than what has already been announced. I wouldn't count on it. (And consider it a nice surprise for Gen2 owners if it ever does.)

 

[COdogman]

Driver+ aside, it’s worth wondering what else Gen1 is capable of adding. I know Rivian wants to add an in-vehicle “virtual assistant” at some point.

 

[godfodder0901]

Yeah, from one of the recent interviews, it sounds like they thought they could implement their own software on the previous MobilEye platform; but can't, so Driver+ on Gen1 is stuck where it is. It's unclear if Gen2's "Rivian Autonomy Platform" will actually do more than what has already been announced. I wouldn't count on it. (And consider it a nice surprise for Gen2 owners if it ever does.)

Funny thing is, currently the Gen 2 is using a Mobileye system as well. They aren't even using their own at the moment, but have the ability to do so in the future.

 

[CharonPDX]

Funny thing is, currently the Gen 2 is using a Mobileye system as well. They aren't even using their own at the moment, but have the ability to do so in the future.

It is a newer Mobileye, which They've Been Promised™ will support everything they claim they want to support. This time. Mobileye Swears. For real this time.

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