Dual Motor vs Quad Motor real world range

[joeblk10]

Genuine question for anyone that may know. Don't see anything about this on here yet. Stated range on the dual is higher than quad. However both are rated in all purpose mode where the dual automatically switches off the rear motor to conserve. My R1T quad in conserve mode is rated higher than the dual so technically higher range. With AT's it states 315 in conserve vs 300 for dual setup and I've gotten 300 real world as long as I'm gentle on the throttle. Does anyone with a dual motor setup out there have a real world range they are getting when they are trying to maximize range? Seems to me for 3k over a dual motor performance you get better performance both on and off road when you need or want it, plus slightly better range when you need it since you have a manual conserve mode. Extra warranty length too. Worth it to me. We are looking to get an R1S next year so curious to others experience on this.

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[Golfer04]

There already is a thread on this topic. Not sure where you are getting your dual range numbers, but EPA dual is 352 not 300. I think we are all curious about real world dual range. Not much info available yet. My R1T (20s) gets 275 miles highway driving at 73mph. Rivian software engineer I met charging at Meijer in Champain, IL Saturday said the dual motor SHOULD out perform quad by 15-20 percent on highway and get better cold weather efficiency (which is terrible in mine). Take it for what it is worth.

 

[joeblk10]

with AT package its 300.... thats where.

https://rivian.com/vehicle-studio/r1t

pick a dual motor and add all terrain package.

 

[Rivian_Hugh_III]

Rumors are that it won't be a ton more efficient because of how EPA measures efficiency. EPA uses the "standard" setting. On Dual the standard setting automatically switches to front-wheel-drive when that will be more efficient. On Quad the standard setting does not do this. However, the Quad has a dedicated setting for front-wheel-drive. Thus, the gap between Dual and Quad is not as large as it seems, assuming that the driver of the Quad switches to FWD when that is useful. There will still be some efficiency gain for Dual, but not as much as it appears.

 

[lefkonj]

The efficiency is not a big deal at all between these two. I would say the bigger question is cost. Is the performance of the Quad worth the extra cash? What if you could get a dual performance with Max Pack for the same price as the Quad-Large pack? Then I would start to think about it. Right now no max pack has me happy with my Quad-Large pack.

 

[Golfer04]

with AT package its 300.... thats where.

You have a link? Not trying to be a smartass either. I have deposit in on a new R1T. Live in the central Illinois charging desert and range is important to me. If I can't get better range with a dual motor will probably cancel the res. Drive 40,000 miles annually in this thing. By the end of 15 months of ownership 9/30 will have 50,000 miles on it. And that doesn't include miles on the loaners (1 month total) during the 9 trips to Normal SC for warranty work. Any help is appreciated.

 

[joeblk10]

its on their website.... rivian.com.... lol


https://rivian.com/vehicle-studio/r1t

pick a dual motor and add all terrain package.

 

[joeblk10]

The efficiency is not a big deal at all between these two. I would say the bigger question is cost. Is the performance of the Quad worth the extra cash? What if you could get a dual performance with Max Pack for the same price as the Quad-Large pack? Then I would start to think about it. Right now no max pack has me happy with my Quad-Large pack.

The extra performance from 0-60 isn't necessarily worth it to me but as someone who actually uses my truck as an actual truck doing truck things the extra offroad capability is worth the extra 3k. I go on some pretty rough roads regularly. And the max pack is a 10k upgrade over large. That seems steep to me for 50 miles but to each his/her own.

 

[lefkonj]

That was my point... what is important to you. I don't really off road so a Dual-Max would be perfect for me.

 

[vandy1981]

I think it's going to take a 70mph road test from @OutofSpecKyle and/or Tom Moloughney to settle this question.

 

[Golfer04]

with AT package its 300.... thats where.

https://rivian.com/vehicle-studio/r1t

pick a dual motor and add all terrain package.

Lol....It had been so long since I played with configurator I forgot that was there. You are comparing the conserve GoM with the new motor EPA. Might be accurate, but might not too. Need some owners or youtubers to give efficiency numbers. GoM is never correct for me if I validate with the odometer. EPA number isn't either.

 

[riviansmoke]

It sounds like the Rivian range numbers are closer to real world range than what Tesla markets. If that’s the case, I’m interested in the standard pack as I don’t tow anything and that should be sufficient for most of my use cases. This is especially true if it is an LFP type that doesn’t mind charging to 100% regularly and has much better cycle performance. I’m a little disappointed that the standard pack doesn’t support the enhanced dual motor option though.

 

[mkg3]

It sounds like the Rivian range numbers are closer to real world range than what Tesla markets. If that’s the case, I’m interested in the standard pack as I don’t tow anything and that should be sufficient for most of my use cases. This is especially true if it is an LFP type that doesn’t mind charging to 100% regularly and has much better cycle performance. I’m a little disappointed that the standard pack doesn’t support the enhanced dual motor option though.

I see that you live in NH, where winters can be severe. Given that Rivian has no heat pump to condition the batteries, the winter performance/use case may prove to be insufficient. With EPA 260ish miles, winter could be as low as 130~140ish miles (40~50% less)...

 

[Golfer04]

Cold weather performance is one of the things the Rivian software engineer told me was much improved with the new motors. He talked over my head pretty fast so can't repeat the why of it. Don't know if the battery thermals are also improved or what.

 

[mtberman]

I am taking delivery this week in Denver on a dual motor large with 21s. I hope to find time to test it a little. It sounds like everyone’s preference would be to do a couple of efficiency runs @ 70 and then again @ 75.

This weekend I’m going mountain biking with a buddy and of course we will take the new rig. We’ve done this particular trip in my Audi e-tron many times with 2 bikes on a hitch rack. Should be a good comparison.

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